Governor Whitmer Kidnapping Plot

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by barbara

The article says nothing about if others were charged or not. What is your evidence for saying there were no charges of other parties?

By the way, law enforcement didn't kill him. He killed himself.

https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_new...f6f3ee032.html

Look at your link.

The man, which the Kansas City Star newspaper had referred as an 'informant' was actually a FBI agent. The agent had been stringing this guy along for months. The agent actually cased the hospital with the criminal.

There were no explosives, the storage unit was just the place where the FBI chose to serve the warrant / execute the guy. Regarding the final gun shot, that it came from the perp's gun; yeah, right, the only civilian witnesses had ran for cover when 100s of bullets started flying.

The Feds do this stuff all the time. Just seems unethical / ammoral at best.

IMHO, evil rules the world.

[barbara]

You have only given me a conclusion you have come to. That isn't evidence.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by barbara

You have only given me a conclusion you have come to. That isn't evidence.

Evidence is what gets one killed.

The FBI does a fine job, ninety-some percent of the time.

[barbara]

So.....again, no evidence.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by barbara

So.....again, no evidence.

From the KC Star article...

https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_new...f6f3ee032.html

"The violent take-down followed a long-running domestic terrorism investigation that began in 2019 with Wilson’s encrypted communications about bomb-building with Jarrett William Smith, a 24-year-old Army infantry soldier who faces prison for distributing bomb-making information through social media".

Wilson was not communicating with Smith at this point; he was communicating with the FBI.

"Just two days before his death, Wilson and an undercover FBI agent visited Belton Regional to inspect the hospital property and conduct a dry run of their plot, court records say".

There's your evidence of entrapment in this case.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

From the KC Star article...

"The violent take-down followed a long-running domestic terrorism investigation that began in 2019 with Wilson’s encrypted communications about bomb-building with Jarrett William Smith, a 24-year-old Army infantry soldier who faces prison for distributing bomb-making information through social media".

Wilson was not communicating with Smith at this point; he was communicating with the FBI.

"Just two days before his death, Wilson and an undercover FBI agent visited Belton Regional to inspect the hospital property and conduct a dry run of their plot, court records say".

There's your evidence of entrapment in this case.

If you are going to quote a newspaper article, please provide a link. Otherwise I'll delete your post and remove your access to the forum. Got it? Reference - http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=19

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

From the KC Star article...

"The violent take-down followed a long-running domestic terrorism investigation that began in 2019 with Wilson’s encrypted communications about bomb-building with Jarrett William Smith, a 24-year-old Army infantry soldier who faces prison for distributing bomb-making information through social media".

Wilson was not communicating with Smith at this point; he was communicating with the FBI.

"Just two days before his death, Wilson and an undercover FBI agent visited Belton Regional to inspect the hospital property and conduct a dry run of their plot, court records say".

There's your evidence of entrapment in this case.

I wouldn't jump to any such conclusion. Allow it to play out in court.

[barbara]

I wouldn't jump to any such conclusion. Allow it to play out in court.

Exactly. Until evidence is provided in court and innocence or guilt is determined, everything else is just speculation.

[donquixote99]

The following is drawn from the U.S. Justice Department's page on Entrapment. This defense would have to be developed from detailed evidence at trial; it cannot be assumed from a newspaper-level outline of a sting case.

There are two elements to an entrapment defense:
1) The government induces the crime
2) The defendent lacked predisposition to commit the crime

Lack of either element is fatal to an entrapment defense.

To show inducement, the defense must show more that government artifice or deceit. They must show:
* at least persuasion or mild coercion
* OR, pleas based on need, sympathy, or friendship
* OR, extraordinary promises
Inducement shown only if government's behavior was such that "a law-abiding citizen's will to obey the law could have been overborne."

"The predisposition inquiry focuses upon whether the defendant "was an unwary innocent or, instead, an unwary criminal who readily availed himself of the opportunity to perpetrate the crime."

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/...pment-elements

[Oerets]

Try using entrapment when caught by your partner with another.
Saying your not guilty, it was all their fault for entrapping you.....