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02-20-2014, 06:58 AM
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German Secretary of State Steinmeier wanted to act as mediator in the conflict, together with two collegues from Poland and France. They arrived at Kiev today and left Kiev instantly again, without meeting anybody.
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02-20-2014, 07:05 AM
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German Secretary of State Steinmeier wanted to act as mediator in the conflict, together with two collegues from Poland and France. They arrived at Kiev today and left Kiev instantly again, without meeting anybody.
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Yep. The truce announced yesterday broke down and now there are bullets flying.
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02-20-2014, 07:13 AM
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I am actually a bit confused now. I got the the informations from CNN and German CNN offshoot NTV three hours ago that the negotiations did not happen. But latest internet infos say they did.
Anyway - EU pressure will be in vain, I am convinced of that, because Janukovych is a puppet of Putin.
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02-20-2014, 07:27 AM
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I am actually a bit confused now. I got the the informations from CNN and German CNN offshoot NTV three hours ago that the negotiations did not happen. But latest internet infos say they did.
Anyway - EU pressure will be in vain, I am convinced of that, because Janukovych is a puppet of Putin.
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Or because the EU is not prepared to pay the asking price.
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02-20-2014, 02:30 PM
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Yep. The truce announced yesterday broke down and now there are bullets flying.
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Yep. It's pretty bad. Snipers on both sides and police using automatic weapons.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z1
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02-21-2014, 09:24 AM
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Ukraine President, Opposition Sign Compromise Deal
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...741947218.html
Hope this sticks, cooler heads prevail. Yanukovych has lost the country anyway to the pro west supporters. Love to see Putin lose. Syria next? Hope so.
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02-21-2014, 10:39 AM
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Or to the Right Sector?
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02-22-2014, 06:25 AM
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In post #14 I supposed a civil war and now I fear a civil war and a (presumably) resulting separation of the nation into a pro West and a pro Russia part. This scenario gets more and more realistic, although the opposition became stronger and the time of Yanukovych has been running out.
It is like a crime thirller, but this is a crime thriller with a lot of real blood.
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02-22-2014, 03:58 PM
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Suddenly this all made me think of an old cigarette advert, Virginia Slime I think. It said "You've come a longh way baby." Oh really, have we? If I had not seen the sun rise in the east this morning I would swear that someone had reversed the earth's rotation and we were going backward in time.
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02-22-2014, 06:40 PM
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Ukraine’s parliament votes to oust president; former prime minister is freed from jail
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...9c0_story.html
Still a possibility for civil war? I don't see it unless Russia starts arming the pro Yanukovych forces.
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