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Old 12-31-2013, 02:51 PM
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the Republican policy of being against the extension of slavery into new states created from territory won from Mexico WAS the reason the South seceded....

when Lincoln was elected they left the union for that reason...he was against the extension

as the war dragged on and the price in human bloodshed rose the aims of the North changed as far as the issue of slavery itself as an institution.
In some ways yes, in some no.

http://mises.org/daily/952/Lincolns-Tariff-War

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Old 12-31-2013, 03:15 PM
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In some ways yes, in some no.

http://mises.org/daily/952/Lincolns-Tariff-War

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Tariff might be burdensome. But the South would never give up
free labor without violence. The South saw the threat coming and
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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To answer to the OP......Maybe.

There is usually just cause in responding to hostilities, but rarely is there just cause for initiating hostilities. However, this statement is not absolute.

Does that clear it up for you, Cleon?

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Old 12-31-2013, 11:39 AM
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Ok I got a pretty good picture I can fill in the rest with google.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:43 AM
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Ok since no one else has bought this one out I will.and it should be a good one for all interested,,ok what about the whole Mid east thig and when I say thing I mean that in Broad terms.DId the whole Thing stem from A simple Birth right.that seperated the Arabs from the Jewish.ok I am Dense so Dont jump on me,that is the reason I am asking and it is for clarification.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:52 AM
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Ok since no one else has bought this one out I will.and it should be a good one for all interested,,ok what about the whole Mid east thig and when I say thing I mean that in Broad terms.DId the whole Thing stem from A simple Birth right.that seperated the Arabs from the Jewish.ok I am Dense so Dont jump on me,that is the reason I am asking and it is for clarification.
Cleon after WW I the league of Nations gave Britain a mandate to create a homeland for the Jewish people. Lord Balfour, who was administering the mandate kind of screwed up, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelan..._Jewish_people
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:59 AM
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Cleaon after WW I the league of Nations gave Britain a mandat to create a homeland for the Jewish people. Lord Balfour, whowas administering the mandate kind of screwed up, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelan..._Jewish_people
yea I know a bit about that,not much,I was thinking though the whole Arab and Jewish rift.I know at one time the Arab Ottoman empire concoured most of the modern world.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:39 PM
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Cleaon after WW I the league of Nations gave Britain a mandat to create a homeland for the Jewish people. Lord Balfour, whowas administering the mandate kind of screwed up, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelan..._Jewish_people
This is a movie (with all the attendant twists and turns Hollywood likes to throw in) that tells some of the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_%281960_film%29
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:02 PM
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This is a movie (with all the attendant twists and turns Hollywood likes to throw in) that tells some of the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_%281960_film%29
Yea JJ seen that movie probaly were I get some theory on the Jewis Cause.If I i may be allowed to put it as a cause.
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It is difficult to get a clear view on the Middle East conflict re Israel because
of the dominance of Jews in the media.

From my reading between the lines.

Jews and Arabs in modern times use to live peacefully in the holy land.

Long long ago several times great many Jews were kicked out/fled the area.

Many of them went to Europe. They were often restricted to certain professions. One of them was banking at which they were very successful.
So over time Jews were associated rightly or wrongly with every economic
disaster or misfortune.

Politicians of all stripe played on that. The arrival of Adolph Hitler gave greater
impetus to the idea to the Jews that they need to go back to land of their own.

They were able to get other powerful people in governments to agree with
them out sympathy and through the connections of the influential Jewish family - Rothschild. One Walter Rothschild bought out the British Government..hence The Balfour Declaration.

Of course the mass of European Jews landing in Holy Land cause serious conflict to this day. They were able to defeat the Arabs
early in the conflict largely because a lot them of were expose to modern warfare of WW11.

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