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TJ, if you remember the movie, that gesture from Billy is what got him and Wyatt killed.
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Them Goddamned long haired hippie drug addicts had it coming.
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Never saw the movie being put off by all the hype, did it age well or is the music the part worth remembering?
BTW, the Billy bike was my fave, not a fan of apes or extended forks.
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Never saw the movie being put off by all the hype, did it age well or is the music the part worth remembering?
BTW, the Billy bike was my fave, not a fan of apes or extended forks.
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The soundtrack album might be worth getting but the movie really isn't all that good, IMO. The thing that I find off-putting, now that I'm no longer in my 20s, is that the "heroes" are traveling across country, a trip financed by their having been drug mules for a heroin dealer. We never discover anything about them that in any way redeems them but we're supposed to care about them anyway and to hate the rednecks who kill them, all of which I did when I saw it.
I liked Billy's bike better too. Apehangers and extreme front ends are way too squirrely. As I recall, the bikes they used actually belonged to Fonda and Hopper.
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The thing that I find off-putting, now that I'm no longer in my 20s, is that the "heroes" are traveling across country, a trip financed by their having been drug mules for a heroin dealer. We never discover anything about the that in any way redeems them but we're supposed to care about them anyway
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That's the way I felt when I saw it in my 20's and I still feel the same way.
They were glorifying a couple of dirtbags IMO.
I felt the same way about the way Happy Days glorified "The Fonz".
I went to school with guys like that and they were assholes.
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Never saw the movie being put off by all the hype, did it age well or is the music the part worth remembering?
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I don't remember much about the music except for Born to be Wild, and something about Bogarting a joint whatever the Hell that means. I was more into Simon and Garfunkel back in those days.
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I don't remember much about the music except for Born to be Wild, and something about Bogarting a joint whatever the Hell that means. I was more into Simon and Garfunkel back in those days.
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Loved "Bookends", out about the time of "The Graduate" as "Mrs. Robinson" is on it.
"Bogarting" a joint iirc is holding onto it as it's passed around in a group to take several tokes instead of just taking a drag and passing it on.
The main accomplishment of the concept of "Easy Rider" is Peter Fonda doing a commercially successful project on his own in the shadow of his father and famous sister.
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I don't remember much about the music except for Born to be Wild, and something about Bogarting a joint whatever the Hell that means. I was more into Simon and Garfunkel back in those days.
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A few months ago I found the LP in the bin at the Goodwill. In pretty good shape too. There's Born to be Wild and The Pusher from Steppenwolf. Every time I hear those opening chords from the latter, I have this reflex action to go reaching for the box of weed and papers...and there's no box anymore. The other really good song from the movie was The Weight, but they couldn't make a deal for the soundtrack album to get the original by The Band that was in the movie...so they used a cover by Smith on the LP. Eh...
I like the scenes with Nicholson but I agree with most of the posts on the movie as a whole. It really hasn't aged very well. There are a number of films that depict the times way better than Easy Rider. Panic in Needle Park, Midnight Cowboy, Medium Cool, and Joe...come to mind. And I'll tell ya, that last one...ever since I sat in the theater and saw 23 year old Susan Sarandon in the bathtub, I've never been able to get it out of my head.
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There are a number of films that depict the times way better than Easy Rider. Panic in Needle Park, Midnight Cowboy, Medium Cool, and Joe...come to mind.
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Panic In Needle Park
Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNeN9ZU2CSM
Medium Cool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Cool
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There are a number of films that depict the times way better than Easy Rider. Panic in Needle Park, Midnight Cowboy, Medium Cool, and Joe...come to mind.
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All of those movies, including Easy Rider, paint a very one-sided, dark, and distorted picture of the '60s. You might as well say that The Graduate and The Knack - And How To Get It paint a true picture of the '60s or that On The Waterfront and The Wild One do that for the '50s.
Certainly they were powerful representations of a point of view but I don't think it's really possible to encapsulate an era accurately while you're stuck in the middle of it. It takes a level of distance and detachment to do that.
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02-10-2015, 01:26 PM
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All of those movies, including Easy Rider, paint a very one-sided, dark, and distorted picture of the '60s. You might as well say that The Graduate and The Knack - And How To Get It paint a true picture of the '60s or that On The Waterfront and The Wild One do that for the '50s.
Certainly they were powerful representations of a point of view but I don't think it's really possible to encapsulate an era accurately while you're stuck in the middle of it. It takes a level of distance and detachment to do that.
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For a depiction of the early 50's I thought "The Last Picture Show" was good.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067328/
For the late 50's and early 60's I like the movie "Matinee"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107529/
For the late 60's and early 70's I like the TV series "The Wonder Years".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094582/
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