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01-04-2017, 01:26 PM
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Jigsawed
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Finland experiment: Basic income for the unemployed.
2000 unemployed Finns in a pilot scheme will receive a monthly income of 560 Euros even if they find work.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...for-unemployed
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01-04-2017, 01:47 PM
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I wonder what it costs to live there. Is that enough money for food and shelter?
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01-04-2017, 02:03 PM
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This is a good start. Automation and robotics are replacing the need for workers more and more with each passing year. As a result we have a glut of potential labor which is marginalizing more and more of our population.
We need to get used to he concept of paying people not to work to prevent labor surpluses just as we have paid farmers not to grow certain crops to prevent commodity surpluses.
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01-04-2017, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
This is a good start. Automation and robotics are replacing the need for workers more and more with each passing year. As a result we have a glut of potential labor which is marginalizing more and more of our population.
We need to get used to he concept of paying people not to work to prevent labor surpluses just as we have paid farmers not to grow certain crops to prevent commodity surpluses.
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We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.
More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)
Humans aren't the smartest of animals.
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It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
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01-04-2017, 04:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPots
We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.
More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)
Humans aren't the smartest of animals.
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Well at least we still agree on something Potter. Human beings are fucking themselves out of a place at the table. And as a species, we're too dumb to do anything about it. China's one child policy is probably the smartest thing any government has ever done. Yet if dare to say it here you will get pig piled in a heartbeat.
The great thinning of the herd is coming, but it won't be by us. Mama nature is going to do it for us.
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01-07-2017, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Well at least we still agree on something Potter. Human beings are fucking themselves out of a place at the table. And as a species, we're too dumb to do anything about it. China's one child policy is probably the smartest thing any government has ever done. Yet if dare to say it here you will get pig piled in a heartbeat.
The great thinning of the herd is coming, but it won't be by us. Mama nature is going to do it for us.
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Except for one small problem Tom, those single children were spoiled rotten. I had the unhappy task of trying to teach a few of their software engineers before I retired.
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01-04-2017, 04:44 PM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPots
We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.
More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)
Humans aren't the smartest of animals.
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The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.
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01-04-2017, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.
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Mixed race couples among the younger people are getting commonplace around here and in Florida where I recently moved from. I figure that in a couple more generations the majority race will look like Derek Jeeter, Tiger Woods, or Barack Obama.
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01-04-2017, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.
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Good riddance.
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01-04-2017, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPots
We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.
More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)
Humans aren't the smartest of animals.
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The problem here who decides the breeding pairs?
If society would just educate the use of birth control and quit the war on sex for fun. It is going to happen, get over it and have a plan.
Barney
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