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Old 05-11-2011, 12:50 AM
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One could crack a history book, or look at the current world structure and reach their own conclusions.



Cohen's a doofus. He states a couple different versions of what it means, then says he believes it, then attacks the right. So, what does it mean?

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Old 05-11-2011, 10:03 AM
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Do you think the likes of Palin, Bachmann, and Trump belong in such a picture (all of whom have led in the early running at one time or another).
Actually, there were quite a few "Trumps" at the Constitutional Convention. Land speculation was quite a lucrative occupation, and some of the more influential members of society worked in that field. Several attendees to the convention were land speculators. There were also a number of securities traders.

No wonder libs hate the constitution so much. It was penned by a bunch of Wall Street types!
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:11 AM
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Indeed, Dave Americans don't do anything neatly lol. Still a nice reminder though.

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Old 05-11-2011, 10:48 AM
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Actually, there were quite a few "Trumps" at the Constitutional Convention. Land speculation was quite a lucrative occupation, and some of the more influential members of society worked in that field. Several attendees to the convention were land speculators. There were also a number of securities traders.

No wonder libs hate the constitution so much. It was penned by a bunch of Wall Street types!
and how many of them leveraged the entirety of all transactions and declared bankruptcy in order to renege.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:53 AM
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Actually, there were quite a few "Trumps" at the Constitutional Convention. Land speculation was quite a lucrative occupation, and some of the more influential members of society worked in that field. Several attendees to the convention were land speculators. There were also a number of securities traders.

No wonder libs hate the constitution so much. It was penned by a bunch of Wall Street types!
I think the only thing that Trump and the Founding Fathers had in common were tacky hairpieces.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:13 AM
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and how many of them leveraged the entirety of all transactions and declared bankruptcy in order to renege.
True that Trumps history with bankruptcy will cause him some pain in the campaign because his opponents and the media will continue to badger and distract with the issue.



However, I think in Trumps case, he used bankruptcy to restructure, rather than to avoid paying, his debts.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:47 AM
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No wonder libs hate the constitution so much. It was penned by a bunch of Wall Street types!
Yeah, right. I know, I've heard it before, that "....it's (The Constitution) really all about making money....".
Do you really believe that?

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Old 05-11-2011, 12:11 PM
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True that Trumps history with bankruptcy will cause him some pain in the campaign because his opponents and the media will continue to badger and distract with the issue.



However, I think in Trumps case, he used bankruptcy to restructure, rather than to avoid paying, his debts.
Actually, he bragged about how good a deal he worked, reducing his debt by $800Million. If he is going to claim that his business acumen qualifies him for president, shouldn't the fact of three bankruptcies be a relevant point of discussion?

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Old 05-11-2011, 01:14 PM
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Maybe he could do that for our debt

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.... renege.
That word is on the NAACPs watch list

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Old 05-11-2011, 01:22 PM
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The GOP does seem to have an affinity for failed businessmen, don't they? Let's see. We make the country more economically viable by "running it like a business", ostensibly by electing former business folk who-----failed in the business world? (GWB, anyone?) Well, I guess Trump isn't a failed businessman, really. He has made himself a very rich man. When I think of what an America run by Trump might look like, I envision Atlantic City. Gleaming monuments of wealth and run away capitalism on one side of the street-slums, poverty and rampant crime on the other side of the street.

Nothing in between.

No thanks.

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