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#21
03-09-2010, 04:32 PM
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John
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#22
03-09-2010, 04:39 PM
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I kinda like the ACLU, but not for any reason associated with liberal ideology. I think we need an organization with the clout and legal expertise who is willing/able to take on the powers-that-be. Given the chance, I think industry and government will often take positions that threaten to erode civil liberties. I'd rather have the ACLU step in with its lawyers and communications staff on controversial issues than a bunch of whacked-out teabaggers.
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#23
03-09-2010, 06:23 PM
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03-10-2010, 08:08 AM
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03-10-2010, 10:15 AM
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Yeah, an' excuse me, but I don't see where we MUST extend the constitutional rights of American Citizens to those who are either 1) Illegally here, and/or 2) Trying to do us and our country harm.. Sheik Yerbouty & Co. oughta be glad that they're still alive...I'm sure if the situation were reversed, and American citizens had attacked Mecca, Riyadh, some place like that, the Saudis would have been equally concerned about THEIR rights-Right up to the time where the knife blade met the necks...I mean, yeah, I'm glad we have the ACLU, but to me, they really ought to stick to issues that concern AMERICANS...And quit going off on tangents about the rights of "Freedom Fighters" who fly airplanes into buildings...And while we're at it on the ACLU, I've always found it interesting as to how they are very selective on what "Rights" they choose to protect...Put up a creche in the town square at Christmas-'scuse me, "Winter Solstice"-and everybody goes ballistic, but if I ever needed help on a certain Amendment that is after the First but before the Third, they're virtually ALWAYS silent...
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#26
03-10-2010, 10:37 AM
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Sandy, that's not the ACLU. It's just the Constitution. It wasn't even particularly controversial until Bush started ignoring the Constitution.
Also, I'm really uncomfortable with the argument that it's somehow okay to ignore our own law because in other countries with different laws our citizens would be treated differently. If anything, that's all the more reason to adhere to our own laws and our Constitution John
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#27
03-10-2010, 02:02 PM
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No doubt he did, but that's been a pretty popular pass time for our masters for years. And I must agree with Sandy. The ACLU does appear to select causes to champion that would not have been my first choice. Other than that, I suppose they are a good organization. Chas
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#28
03-10-2010, 02:07 PM
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It's a shame the ACLU went political.
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03-10-2010, 02:29 PM
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#30
03-10-2010, 02:38 PM
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I saw a history of them a while back, I think PBS, they said there was a fight in the beginning for control, they went left.
Pete
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