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02-26-2013, 10:07 AM
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Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
Again, Hollywood likes to take credit for a good story done by someone else. Can't let America see that someone else in the world might be a good guy. Just like the stupid U-571, Argo is again a foreign initiative and risk, made American. I know, who cares what the foreigners think, right? At least Jimmy Carter, on Piers Morgans show, is man enough to set the record straight:
MORGAN: You’ve seen “Argo,” I take it? How accurate is it from your memory?
CARTER: Well, let me say, first of all, it’s a great drama. And I hope it gets the Academy Award for best film because I think it deserves it. The other thing that I would say was that ninety per cent of the contributions to the ideas and the consummation of the plan was Canadian. And the movie gives almost full credit to the American C.I.A. And, with that exception, the movie is very good.
But Ben Affleck’s character in the film was only—he was only in, stayed in, Iran a day and a half. And the main hero, in my opinion, was Ken Taylor, who was the Canadian Ambassador who orchestrated the entire process.
I was informed about it the first day. And I was very much involved with the Canadian government because the Canadian government would not legally permit six false passports to be issued. So the Canadian Parliament had to go into secret session the first time in history, and they voted to let us use six Canadian passports that were false.
MORGAN: But when you first heard about this outlandish plan to create a fictitious science-fiction movie to get these hostages out, you’re the President of the United States. I mean, if this had gone badly wrong, you would have been an absolute laughingstock. So it’s a bold moment for you, for the Presidency, for the country.
CARTER: Well, I don’t deny that. But it was much bolder for the Canadian government to do it, because the Canadian government was not involved in the hostage crisis, as you know. They could have been hostages themselves had it been revealed.
But as I said, you know, they did the primary work. And as a matter of fact, the American hostages left Iran and landed in Switzerland and landed before the Iranians ever discovered that they had been there.
When I left office, I ordained that we would not reveal any American’s involvement in the process, but to give the Canadians full credit for the entire heroic episode.
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02-26-2013, 10:21 AM
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But we all knew that, when I saw the outline of the movie I juust shrugged and said here we go again.
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02-26-2013, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
But we all knew that, when I saw the outline of the movie I juust shrugged and said here we go again.
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"We" as in you and I?
The American people sure as heck don't know it.
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02-26-2013, 01:34 PM
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There you have it. Thanks, Erik.
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02-27-2013, 06:46 PM
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There you have it. Thanks, Erik.
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No need to thank me. Jimmy Carter is the man. I just think more highly of the American people than Hollywood does.
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02-27-2013, 09:03 PM
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Do you mean to tell me the hostages weren't released because they feared Reagan? Ooooooooo......SACRILEGE!
I remember seeing a sign at the Canadian border near Buffalo NY that said "Thanks, Neighbor!"
It didn't last long......Because credit had to be given to the undeserving phoney about to be sworn in.
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03-01-2013, 09:16 AM
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Do you mean to tell me the hostages weren't released because they feared Reagan? Ooooooooo......SACRILEGE!
I remember seeing a sign at the Canadian border near Buffalo NY that said "Thanks, Neighbor!"
It didn't last long......Because credit had to be given to the undeserving phoney about to be sworn in.
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Probably because Buffalo is within range of the CBC newscasts.
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03-01-2013, 09:20 AM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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So I assume the theory being posited here was that Carter actually did something right?
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03-01-2013, 09:25 AM
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Any more absurd than giving credit to someone who had nothing to do with it, under the assumption that he got the hostages released "...because the terrorists feared him."?
Really? Did terrorists fear Reagan? 200+ dead Marines would beg to differ.
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03-01-2013, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Any more absurd than giving credit to someone who had nothing to do with it, under the assumption that he got the hostages released "...because the terrorists feared him."?
Really? Did terrorists fear Reagan? 200+ dead Marines would beg to differ.
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Reagan was a terrorist himself.
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madr....h6W97S9q.dpbs
Iran-Contra was still a wet dream when he did this.
No Reagan did not have the stones to retaliate for the killing of 250 Marines in Lebanon. He turned tail and ran away to manufacture fake winnable wars, while he secretly funded, and supplied arms to commit genocide in Central and South America.
I can assure you he will not be speaking to Carter, in heaven, when the time comes.
We always complain about not getting an honest President who's administration is as transparent as it can be. We got it, with Carter, and hated it. We like corruption.
I have worked on many Habitat for Humanity projects doing HVAC and plumbing installs for free. I have even paid for the materials when I could. It just makes a person feel good to help someone else.
Thank you President Carter for all that you have done to help people in need.
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