Colorado to vote on a single payer medical system this fall

[JCricket]

Here is the jist of what they are saying. Lots of fluff in my opinion. These may be good objectives, but I wonder if any of it is possible.

http://coloradocareyes.co/amendment69/

Cut and paste of their ideas on funding

In order to assume responsibility for the financing of health care in Colorado, the Board will seek all necessary waivers, exemptions, and agreements to receive all available state and federal health care funds.

The Colorado Department of Revenue will collect transitional operating fund taxes (TOFT) from residents beginning July1, 2017 at the following rates: 0.6% of payroll from employers, 0.3% of payroll from employees, and 0.9% from non-payroll income.

The month prior to ColoradoCare’s assumption of responsibility for health care payments, the Department of Revenue will cease collecting TOFT and will collect and transfer premium taxes (PT) to ColoradoCare as follows: 6 2/3% of employer payroll; 3 1/3% of employee payroll; and 10% non-payroll income. Because these are taxes they are deductible when filing income tax forms............


I wonder what is considered non-payroll income??

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Mr. Lin

I'm very sorry to hear that about your wife.

Regarding the first part of your comment quoted above: So perhaps the Canadian system could use some tweaking?

Just to clarify that reference was to the US system preventive care is normal in Canada

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Just to clarify that reference was to the US system preventive care is normal in Canada

I don't get it, rob. The Bernie-ites are being promised a system like you have in Canada by their messiah who will create a miracle and fix that, and fix the education system, and fix the militaristic police department problem, and fix everything else all at once...and fix it all with somebody else's money. Why TF are they butting heads with you about healthcare?

Bernie...how you gone pay for all this? "We will make the mega-rich pay...it won't cost any of you a penny.", says Bernie. Bernie Sanders, the latest in the long tradition of "free lunch" liberal politicians. Good luck with that.

[JCricket]

Ike,
Just to be clear, I am not against single payer, or for it. I have no particular bias. To me it is like buying a car. I simply want to know how it is going to work, and I want to know before I pay for it. What am I getting if I buy this? If a system can be put into place that fixes the medical system, I would be all for it.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I don't get it, rob. The Bernie-ites are being promised a system like you have in Canada by their messiah who will create a miracle and fix that, and fix the education system, and fix the militaristic police department problem, and fix everything else all at once...and fix it all with somebody else's money. Why TF are they butting heads with you about healthcare?

Bernie...how you gone pay for all this? "We will make the mega-rich pay...it won't cost any of you a penny.", says Bernie. Bernie Sanders, the latest in the long tradition of "free lunch" liberal politicians. Good luck with that.

Look it is 32 yeears since I left Canada but back then SinglePayer was paid for with a 0.8% surcharge on my taxable income and $54 per montthh for the family plane.

I have forgotten what the medical surcharge on income is here and Medicare Part B cost each of us $128.50 per month. Supplement is $357 per month (I just wrote the check last week.)

It was worth having both Medicare plus the supplement the bills for Florence's illness cremation and death certificates were over $250,000 and all that I paid for were the cremation and certificates.

We are more than paying for SinglePayer here already but we just don't get it.