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[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell

I see you're proud to be associated with a bunch of highly - compensated children who think they're more important than the fans that pay to see them play. Congrats.

All Trump did was vocalize what fans were thinking. The players, as Dez Bryant pointed out, took to the field to protest against Trump during the national anthem. Thus, the week 3 protests were no longer about Kaepernick's original message. Again, bad choice by the players to choose the national anthem as the time to throw their little tantrum, and by the owners who let the get away with it.

I live in Bamastan, I know what the fake potus did here, and why. His irresponsible intentional rabble rousing antics shame himself and the country, and your support of him is frankly appalling.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Exactly and that's the point I've been making all along. The demonstrations are now about the White Nationalist-in-Chief because of his race-baiting behavior in which he threatened their livelihoods in Alabama. They're protesting against this tasteless abuse of power and drawing them into a dispute they (mostly) want no part of.

Let me see if I have this straight. NeoNazis and the KKK demonstrate against the current state of race relations in the country (it's not racist enough for their tastes) under the flags of our enemies in the nation's two bloodiest wars and it's all about freedom of speech. Black athletes protest against the nation for not living up to its egalitarian ideals (in part by embracing a race-baiting president who equivocated on criticizing said NeoNazis and the KKK) and they're the ones who are unpatriotic and out of line? Your value system is all fucked up.

Nah, you don't have it straight, and you're again putting words in my mouth to bolster your own argument. The point you've been making all along has swerved from one post to the next. You crack me up, grandma.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

I live in Bamastan, I know what the fake potus did here, and why. Your support of him is frankly appalling.

I'm sure you're appalled about something, but I'm not sure how its about anything I've said. I've been discussing this from the perspective of the fans, and have said nothing in this thread "in support of Trump".

But if you want to get "appalled", you go right ahead.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm sure you're appalled about something, but I'm not sure how its about anything I've said. I've been discussing this from the perspective of the fans, and have said nothing in this thread "in support of Trump".

But if you want to get "appalled", you go right ahead.

Those fans are welcome to their cheap bleacher patriotics, they risk nothing to sing a song and wave a flag to follow the flock. They do not speak for all fans, btw.

[Rajoo]

Whell, would you vote for Trump again?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Ah, the excuse you use for your own failure to engage in meaningful discourse. How convenient.

Meaningful discourse? From you?

That's a good one, Mike. A real knee slapper.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm sure you're appalled about something, but I'm not sure how its about anything I've said. I've been discussing this from the perspective of the fans, and have said nothing in this thread "in support of Trump".

But if you want to get "appalled", you go right ahead.

There you go again. You are parroting Trump's arguments. Your disclaimer is just your typical dishonesty.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

There you go again. You are parroting Trump's arguments. Your disclaimer is just your typical dishonesty.

What Trump argument, specifically, did I parrot? I posted examples of fan reactions from the stadiums, none of which included Trump. So, either you're attempting to put words in my mouth, or a lying sack of excrement. Which is it?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Meaningful discourse? From you?

That's a good one, Mike. A real knee slapper.

Actually, I was looking for meaningful discourse from you. After reading your post above, I guess I'm still looking.

[donquixote99]

^^^ A ludicrous false dichotomy, from a lying sack of excrement.

(Right name, whell, except you threw it at a person you are not remotely fit to address.)