Historical firearms, Winchester 45-70

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

My neighbor gave me some curved stripper clips and a few rounds of Lebel 1886 rifle rounds. First smokeless cartridges made. The French/Austrians sure make stuff with a certain flair, even bullets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebel_Model_1886_rifle

I'll have to see if my friend, the collector, has one of these WW1 era rifles.

Considering it's a French rifle, it may never have been fired in combat.

[Oerets]

I have two 30.06 rifles one a Springfield 03 and the other a Eddystone bolt action. Both are very easy and fast to learn to shoot well. I would think that round would be also!



Barney

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I have two 30.06 rifles one a Springfield 03 and the other a Eddystone bolt action. Both are very easy and fast to learn to shoot well. I would think that round would be also!



Barney

These are 8mm? Weird shit, indeed! These rounds appear to be full steel jacketed, armor piercing?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

These are 8mm? Weird shit, indeed! These rounds appear to be full steel jacketed, armor piercing?

No. 30-06 is also called a 7.62x63 (bullet diameter x case length).

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

No. 30-06 is also called a 7.62x63 (bullet diameter x case length).

Right the 7.62 NATO. The AK47 also uses a 7.62 round but with a shorter casing. I think Bob may have been talking about the French Lebel cartridge being 8mm.

John

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Right the 7.62 NATO. The AK47 also uses a 7.62 round but with a shorter casing. I think Bob may have been talking about the French Lebel cartridge being 8mm.

John

Actually, the 7.62 NATO (7.62X51) is the 308 Winchester, not a 30-06 (which is not a NATO cartridge). The AK shoots a 7.62X39.

[Oerets]

Sorry I was alluding to the progression from the Lebel rifle/round to Mauser then onto the Springfield and then Lee-Enfield. How that action and round may have started the trend away from lever action.



Barney

[donquixote99]

When I saw the first pic in the write-up I was highly impressed. Those do indeed look like the best production values this side of cost-no-object artisan machining. They had all kinds of motivation to aim for that, obviously.

[Tom Joad]

I'm not much of an auto-loader fan, but there is something about those old GI .45's.

One of my favorite scenes from Saving Private Ryan is where Tom Hanks is shooting at the German Tank with one.

[donquixote99]

A gorgeous still. Took bunches of artistry and acting to create that image.