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06-10-2015, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LawDawg
Give it up, Boris...it's pointless....you're just spittin in the wind talking to these guys....
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Really? Neither one of you has come up with a rational argument so far, so if it's pointless why are you both still here?
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06-10-2015, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
I disagree, it's society as in building a society we all can coexist, may be somewhat of an equal footing. Communism is what you get when fascists get into the act.
Let me ask you this, why is Communism good in China that we support to the tune of $400 billion+ in tax free trade annually? But we embargo Cuba.
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Collectivism in any form is bad.. The so called "greater good" idea is a fallacy.
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06-10-2015, 10:47 AM
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Selfishness is a virtue.
Altruism is a crime.
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06-10-2015, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BorisTAnimal
Collectivism in any form is bad.. The so called "greater good" idea is a fallacy.
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Ah so, then should we stop building schools, or hospitals?
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06-10-2015, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BorisTAnimal
Collectivism in any form is bad.. The so called "greater good" idea is a fallacy.
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Of course, the Capitalism Mantra. Except when lining up for handouts.
"The opposite of collectivism is individualism. Individualism declares that each and every man, may live his own life for his own happiness, as an end to himself.", Capitalism.org
But like Obama once mentioned, you didn't build that!
Say like the Bay bridge here in the Bay Area. Or O'Hare in Chicago.
"No man is an island", John Donne
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06-11-2015, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
Of course, the Capitalism Mantra. Except when lining up for handouts.
"The opposite of collectivism is individualism. Individualism declares that each and every man, may live his own life for his own happiness, as an end to himself.", Capitalism.org
But like Obama once mentioned, you didn't build that!
Say like the Bay bridge here in the Bay Area. Or O'Hare in Chicago.
"No man is an island", John Donne
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It is the idea of individual liberty that built this country in the first place.
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06-11-2015, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BorisTAnimal
It is the idea of individual liberty that built this country in the first place.
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Yes, but individual liberty in the context of the Social Contract, without which civilization is impossible.
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06-11-2015, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Yes, but individual liberty in the context of the Social Contract, without which civilization is impossible.
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Wrong as usual. The very notion of a mythical "social contract" is what formed the USSR and other totalitarian regimes.
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06-11-2015, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BorisTAnimal
Wrong as usual. The very notion of a mythical "social contract" is what formed the USSR and other totalitarian regimes...
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... or so says the sociopath.
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06-11-2015, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
... or so says the sociopath.
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No, fact. collectivism, in any form, kills any sense of individualism, but continue being the good little Borg drone for the Left.
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