|
|
We appreciate your help
in keeping this site going.
|
|
03-20-2018, 11:42 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Bamastan
Posts: 11,070
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
Since he doesn't appear to know, I'll tell you again. Self defense and being able to fight a tyrant who is taking over our nation, which Trump clearly isn't. These two rights remain until the Supremes sing otherwise.
|
Scalia iirc said, the 2nd permits home defense with a handgun. Nothing else, afaik.
The tyranny bit is a false assumption, absent from the Second in word and intent. Armed insurrection against Federal authority is not a Constitunally granted protected right.
Trump is at least a would be tyrant as POTUS by demeanor.
His removal would be arguably justifiable by any rational judgement of ethical behavior.
__________________
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
|
03-20-2018, 12:01 PM
|
|
Rational Anarchist
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,315
|
|
The tyranny bit isn't a false assumption and having the means at hand to fight a tyrant who has usurped Federal authority is why it's part of the second.
Would be doesn't matter, but is does. If we are ever in actual danger of being under a tyrant's boot, firearms would be an excellent tool in defending our homes. Pretty sure Scalia would concur.
__________________
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
Last edited by nailer; 03-20-2018 at 12:04 PM.
|
03-20-2018, 12:17 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Bamastan
Posts: 11,070
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
The tyranny bit isn't a false assumption and having the means at hand to fight a tyrant who has usurped Federal authority is why it's part of the second.
Would be doesn't matter, but is does. If we are ever in actual danger of being under a tyrant's boot, firearms would be an excellent tool in defending our homes. Pretty sure Scalia would concur.
|
If that was the intent, it would have been part of the wording. It's just not there.
__________________
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
|
03-20-2018, 02:38 PM
|
|
AKA Sister Mary JJ
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Upper East Tennessee
Posts: 5,897
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
Since he doesn't appear to know, I'll tell you again. Self defense and being able to fight a tyrant who is taking over our nation, which Trump clearly isn't. These two rights remain until the Supremes sing otherwise.
|
Wrong.
__________________
"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." (Mark Twain)
|
03-20-2018, 03:53 PM
|
|
Rational Anarchist
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,315
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJIII
Wrong.
|
Pray tell us then. Or are you saying you actually don't know as oppossed to appearing not to?
__________________
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
|
03-20-2018, 08:33 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 13,016
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
Obama caught a ration of shit for criticizing the type of rednecks who cling to their guns or religion. It seems he was right on the mark.
NEWFOUNDLAND, Pa. — Crown-wearing worshippers clutching AR-15 rifles drank holy wine and exchanged or renewed wedding vows in a commitment ceremony at a Pennsylvania church on Wednesday, prompting a nearby school to cancel classes.
With state police and a smattering of protesters standing watch outside the church, brides clad in white and grooms in dark suits brought dozens of unloaded AR-15s into World Peace and Unification Sanctuary for a religious event that doubled as an advertisement for the Second Amendment.
The church, which has a worldwide following, believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” in the book of Revelation, and encouraged couples to bring the weapons.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uns/383815002/
|
Just saw this thread. Don't go to church much, do ya? If you did you'd know that many a call from many a pulpit, including last Sunday in my church, called for action on restriction of guns.
|
03-20-2018, 11:36 AM
|
|
Rational Anarchist
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,315
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Just saw this thread. Don't go to church much, do ya? If you did you'd know that many a call from many a pulpit, including last Sunday in my church, called for action on restriction of guns.
|
Interesting, until now I didn't perceive you as a gun worshipping redneck. But since you just implied being one who am I to argue.
__________________
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
Last edited by nailer; 03-20-2018 at 11:44 AM.
|
03-20-2018, 01:19 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 13,016
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
Interesting, until now I didn't perceive you as a gun worshipping redneck. But since you just implied being one who am I to argue.
|
Interesting. Until now I didn't know you clung to absurd stereotypes.
|
03-20-2018, 01:33 PM
|
|
Rational Anarchist
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,315
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Interesting. Until now I didn't know you clung to absurd stereotypes.
|
To which stereotype am I clinging? Before answering you might reread the excerpt finnbow quoted in the OP which is the basis of my riff on your reply to his post.
__________________
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
Last edited by nailer; 03-20-2018 at 04:02 PM.
|
03-20-2018, 09:01 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Bamastan
Posts: 11,070
|
|
Depends on the church, quite a few wanted a venal self-identified unapologetic pussygrabbing profligate liar in the Oval.
__________________
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 AM.
|