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05-20-2018, 12:00 PM
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Yep, Real Americans support Russian (and Qatari and Israeli) collaboration with the Trump campaign, money-laundering, influence-peddling and obstruction of justice. True patriots.
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05-20-2018, 01:32 PM
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Yep, Real Americans support Russian (and Qatari and Israeli) collaboration with the Trump campaign, money-laundering, influence-peddling and obstruction of justice. True patriots.
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I deleted it since I thought afterward Trump was successful in getting me to categorize Whell as the "other".
That jerk (Trump) isn't as dumb as I think he is. Although he is not self-aware of his many limitations and moronic beliefs.
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05-20-2018, 07:17 PM
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Yep, Real Americans support Russian (and Qatari and Israeli) collaboration with the Trump campaign, money-laundering, influence-peddling and obstruction of justice. True patriots.
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I guess real Americans drive around with "Resist" bumper stickers and throw as much meaningless shit against the wall hoping against hope that something sticks.
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05-20-2018, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
I guess real Americans drive around with "Resist" bumper stickers and throw as much meaningless shit against the wall hoping against hope that something sticks.
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Tell me, if there is nothing there, why the conniptions over Mueller?
Why fire Comey? Why bitch over Jeff Sessions recusal?
Why the contradiction between the House and Senate reports?
Why did Flynn and Gates plead guilty?
Why do you keep insisting that there was no collusion and how do you know?
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05-21-2018, 08:23 AM
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Tell me, if there is nothing there, why the conniptions over Mueller?
Why fire Comey? Why bitch over Jeff Sessions recusal?
Why the contradiction between the House and Senate reports?
Why did Flynn and Gates plead guilty?
Why do you keep insisting that there was no collusion and how do you know?
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Covered most of this already in other threads and in some detail.
There are no "conniptions" over the Special Counsel, other than the existence of a Special Counsel is a constant source of distraction to any President. I've posted here - I believe in response to you - a reminder about how the Clintons dealt with Ken Starr and company. This is no different.
Comey would have been fired whether or not Trump had been elected. Sessions was an idiot to recuse himself, and he played right into the politics of the moment.
What "contradictions" are you referring to? Need specificity on that question.
You'd need to ask Flynn and Gates, though their plea deals do not have anything to do with "collusion". A similarly interesting question would be why Mueller has requested twice to delay Flynn's sentencing.
I keep insisting that there's no evidence of collusion because there isn't any. Could the investigation have found evidence and simply not yet have made such evidence public? Sure, but that seems very unlikely to me given the number of almost daily leaks that occur from ananymous sources.
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05-21-2018, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I keep insisting that there's no evidence of collusion because there isn't any. Could the investigation have found evidence and simply not yet have made such evidence public? Sure, but that seems very unlikely to me given the number of almost daily leaks that occur from ananymous sources.
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There have been no leaks from the Mueller team. And yes, there's plenty of evidence of collusion, obstruction of justice and financial crimes. Patience, grasshopper.
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05-21-2018, 03:41 PM
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There have been no leaks from the Mueller team. And yes, there's plenty of evidence of collusion, obstruction of justice and financial crimes. Patience, grasshopper.
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Gimme a break. I've already posted previously samples of a number of times that Muellers team has leaked.
And no, there is no hard evidence. There are allegations and leaks and circumstantial evidence upon which there has been hyperventilating speculation, but that's about it.
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05-21-2018, 03:49 PM
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Gimme a break. I've already posted previously samples of a number of times that Muellers team has leaked.
And no, there is no hard evidence. There are allegations and leaks and circumstantial evidence upon which there has been hyperventilating speculation, but that's about it.
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Show me leaks that definitely came from Mueller. (True) leaks, regardless of source, and circumstantial evidence are both evidence.
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05-21-2018, 09:42 AM
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There are no "conniptions" over the Special Counsel, other than the existence of a Special Counsel is a constant source of distraction to any President.
What "contradictions" are you referring to? Need specificity on that question.
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What do you call the constant attacks by the Dotard and his surrogates on Comey, Mueller, Sessions, Rosenstein, FBI and the Justice Department?
So why are the findings so different between the two committee reports, one from the House of Nunes and the other by the Senate?
As for distractions, they begin with all the lying and turmoil within the administration.
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05-21-2018, 03:47 PM
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What do you call the constant attacks by the Dotard and his surrogates on Comey, Mueller, Sessions, Rosenstein, FBI and the Justice Department?
So why are the findings so different between the two committee reports, one from the House of Nunes and the other by the Senate?
As for distractions, they begin with all the lying and turmoil within the administration.
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1. It's called politics.
2. Who says that they were looking at exactly the same things, with exactly the same process, and even trying to reach the same conclusions?
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