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03-02-2012, 02:03 PM
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Sure, pregancy is and I'd guess the healthcare aspect of that is a foregone conclusion, but the act of getting pregnant isn't and that's the point. At least my point, anyway.
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03-02-2012, 02:37 PM
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Sure, pregancy is and I'd guess the healthcare aspect of that is a foregone conclusion, but the act of getting pregnant isn't and that's the point. At least my point, anyway.
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But, see you mentioned preventing a medical condition. If birth control prevents a medical condition, it comes within your definition.
Bill, what makes you conclude that all those interested in preventing pregnancy are engaged in fornication and adultery? Is that where your mind is? A great many married couples in America practice family planning. I know that once we replaced ourselves, we were done. With the growing scarcity in resources, it would seem that limiting family size is a goal that serves to benefit the community.
Oh, and by the way, the woman who was the object of scorn by the purveyor of political pornography testified about her friend who had needed contraceptives to treat ovarian cysts. As a result of not being able to afford such medication, her medical condition resulted in infertility. Now that shouldn't make Mr. Santorum happy.
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03-02-2012, 02:39 PM
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But, see you mentioned preventing a medical condition. If birth control prevents a medical condition, it comes within your definition.
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Yeah, I did, but that's not the type of medical condition I meant, and you know that.
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03-02-2012, 02:52 PM
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Yeah, I did, but that's not the type of medical condition I meant, and you know that.
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Then we shouldn't prevent strokes by providing blood pressure medications or cholesterol medications to people who over-eat, even though it might save medical expenses in the long run.
We shouldn't provide any medication for smoking cessation, even thought it might save medical expenses in the long run. Just as we should deny treatment for alcohol or drug addiction, or any type of treatment that is in anyway related to a lifestyle choice - even among married people.
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03-02-2012, 03:16 PM
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Then we shouldn't prevent strokes by providing blood pressure medications or cholesterol medications to people who over-eat, even though it might save medical expenses in the long run.
We shouldn't provide any medication for smoking cessation, even thought it might save medical expenses in the long run. Just as we should deny treatment for alcohol or drug addiction, or any type of treatment that is in anyway related to a lifestyle choice - even among married people.
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03-02-2012, 03:20 PM
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Maybe, but it was a batting practice fastball, up over the plate.
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03-02-2012, 03:21 PM
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Then we shouldn't prevent strokes by providing blood pressure medications or cholesterol medications to people who over-eat, even though it might save medical expenses in the long run.
We shouldn't provide any medication for smoking cessation, even thought it might save medical expenses in the long run. Just as we should deny treatment for alcohol or drug addiction, or any type of treatment that is in anyway related to a lifestyle choice - even among married people.
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Getting pregnant isn't a disease, as much as apparently it's considered similar by some. Quite the opposite, it generally means things are working A-OK.
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03-02-2012, 03:28 PM
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Getting pregnant isn't a disease, as much as apparently it's considered similar by some. Quite the opposite, it generally means things are working A-OK.
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If sex were not the underlying issue, there would be no question that providing birth control is the most practical medical intervention to avoid future medical costs. In addition to preventing unnecessary medical costs, contraception can prevent enormous social costs arising from unwanted pregnancies, over-population, etc. As many "sins" as there are for folks to get up in arms about, none carry as much fascination for the finger pointers as sex.
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