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08-01-2014, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
I imagine it's like Health Care.
A real solution, ie in the case of Health care, single payer, is impossible because of the Republicans.
So they tried for a band aid, like the ACA, and couldn't even get that.
You're not going to sucker me into that false equivalency crap finn. Might as well give up on it.
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I'll give you credit for being a hard-headed ideologue - the kind who watches Ed Schultz.
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08-01-2014, 05:10 PM
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I'll give you credit for being a hard-headed ideologue - the kind who watches Ed Schultz.
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Ed's awesome, but I don't have cable.
I get most of my news off the net.
As for being hard headed you're Goddamned right.
The Republicans are never going to give an inch.
So if the Democrats keep meeting them halfway all they accomplish is moving the country farther and farther to the right. And that's exactly what has been happening for the last 40 years.
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08-01-2014, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Ed's awesome, but I don't have cable.
I get most of my news off the net.
As for being hard headed you're Goddamned right.
The Republicans are never going to give an inch.
So if the Democrats keep meeting them halfway all they accomplish is moving the country farther and farther to the right. And that's exactly what has been happening for the last 40 years.
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I definitely feel that way about the 'Baggers and their ilk. OTOH, I like to look at issues on their own merits and our corporate tax code has very little merit.
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08-01-2014, 06:05 PM
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OTOH, I like to look at issues on their own merits and our corporate tax code has very little merit.
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I don't know much about the corporate tax code.
All I know is that they are not paying enough.
And that us ordinary schmucks are having to take up the slack.
http://www.aflcio.org/Corporate-Watc...Share-of-Taxes
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As the corporate share of our nation’s federal tax revenue has fallen, individual Americans have paid a relatively higher percentage of federal tax revenue. Corporate taxes fell from 26.4 percent of total tax revenue in 1950 to just 7.4 percent of total tax revenue in 2010. During this same period, personal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes increased from 51.4 percent to 83.8 percent of total tax revenue.[2]
Thanks to numerous tax breaks and loopholes, corporations rarely pay the full corporate income tax rates. A 2011 report by Citizens for Tax Justice and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy found that 78 of 280 of the nation’s largest and most profitable companies paid no federal income taxes in at least one of three years.[3] Overall, the study found that the Fortune 500 companies included in the survey paid 18.5 percent in taxes, or about half the corporate income tax rate of 35 percent.[4]
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08-01-2014, 06:07 PM
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I definitely feel that way about the 'Baggers and their ilk.
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I don't differentiate between baggers and other Republicans. They are all equally bad IMO. Therefore they are all baggers to me.
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08-01-2014, 06:28 PM
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I like me some Ed Shultz and Andy Sullivan. Charlie Pierce too.
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08-01-2014, 06:58 PM
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I like me some Ed Shultz and Andy Sullivan. Charlie Pierce too.
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I like Andrew Sullivan a lot. Smart guy. Ed Schultz is a blowhard that 'Baggers would be proud to identify with in terms of temperament. I got no use for him.
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08-01-2014, 07:28 PM
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I like Andrew Sullivan a lot. Smart guy. Ed Schultz is a blowhard that 'Baggers would be proud to identify with in terms of temperament. I got no use for him.
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Yeah, he's extremely pro union.
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08-04-2014, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Ed's awesome, but I don't have cable.
I get most of my news off the net.
As for being hard headed you're Goddamned right.
The Republicans are never going to give an inch.
So if the Democrats keep meeting them halfway all they accomplish is moving the country farther and farther to the right. And that's exactly what has been happening for the last 40 years.
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QFT well said
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