Benghazi attack - Terrorists or unruly crowd?

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

From Wiki, take it as you wish:

"....Kampfner outlined Wolfowitz’s strategy for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which "envisaged the use of air support and the occupation of southern Iraq with ground troops, to install a new government run by Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress." Wolfowitz believed that the operation would require minimal troop deployment, Hersh explains, because "any show of force would immediately trigger a revolt against Saddam within Iraq, and that it would quickly expand."[34] The financial expenditure would be kept low, Kampfner observes, if "under the plan American troops would seize the oil fields around Basra, in the South, and sell the oil to finance the opposition."

On March 27, 2003, Wolfowitz told the House Appropriations Committee[39] that oil revenue earned by Iraq alone would pay for Iraq's reconstruction after the Iraq war; he testified his "rough recollection" was[39]: "The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but ... We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."[40] By October of that year, "Lawrence Di Rita, the Pentagon's chief spokesman, said 'prewar estimates that may be borne out in fact are likelier to be more lucky than smart.' [He] added that earlier estimates and statements by Mr. Wolfowitz and others 'oozed with uncertainty.'" Di Rita's comments came as a much less optimistic secret Pentagon study—which had been complete at the time of Wolfowitz's testimony—was coming to public light, and when actual production results in Iraq were coinciding with those projected in the less optimistic Pentagon study.[39]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz

Once again, the plan was to sell the oil to finance Iraq, not us. Planning is good.

They were optimistic, and as it turns out they were optimistic about everything.

But for better or worse they succeeded in changing the face of the ME.

Pete

SO, who ended up paying for the reconstruction of Iraq?

Regards,

D-Ray

[mezz]

Not to derail Pete's ongoing firm spanking of all you erroneous liberals on Iraq, but the Obama admin is still sinking deeper into this mess daily:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-91112-attack/

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affa...hreats-attacks

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by mezz

Not to derail Pete's ongoing firm spanking of all you erroneous liberals on Iraq, but the Obama admin is still sinking deeper into this mess daily:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-91112-attack/

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affa...hreats-attacks

Piss off plagerist.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by mezz

Not to derail Pete's ongoing firm spanking of all you erroneous liberals on Iraq, but the Obama admin is still sinking deeper into this mess daily:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-91112-attack/

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affa...hreats-attacks

Just more "Fast & Furious" style bullshit from the car thief/arsonist Issa.

By his own admission, his sole purpose has been to use his committee for a 2 year witch hunt leveled at President Obama, "one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times", personally. He has utterly failed.

John

[piece-itpete]

Must... not... make... spanking... joke...



No worries, sorry to go OT.

Pete

[ebacon]

My face kilohertz.

Funny stuff, Pete.

[piece-itpete]

I have a hard time with this. We are enforcing a no fly zone on a reneging dictator who still dares to radar lock on -and fire upon - US and British warplanes and we don't have plans for a real assault? Even I don't think Clinton was THAT bad

"WASHINGTON - U.S. fighter jets fired missiles and laser-guided bombs on a defense site in southern Iraq early today after it fired six to eight missiles at a British aircraft, the Pentagon said.

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U.S. warplanes exchanged missile fire with Iraqi air defenses Monday when the planes were fired upon by Iraqi surface-to-air missiles in the northern no-fly zone.

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On Monday an Iraqi air-defense installation fired at least three surface-to-air missiles at U.S. planes in the northern zone, and yesterday, Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said Iraqi planes were flying in the restricted zones.

This challenge of the no-fly zones appears to be part of a broader Iraqi effort to challenge all international restrictions.

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http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...0&slug=2936198

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This is an interesting read:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
-William J. Clinton

Pete

[bobabode]

Now you are a Clintonite? That's a switch....

[JBS...]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I fail to understand why it's a big deal at this moment to assert, one way or the other, that the Benghazi attack was the work of terrorists rather than an unruly crowd. Until all the facts are in and the investigation completed, why is it important (for the GOP particularly) to go out on a limb and attribute this attack to terrorists?

Still feel this way today Finn... ?

Ps.. I thought we were supposed to connect the dots before an attack, not after.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Still feel this way today Finn... ?

Ps.. I thought we were supposed to connect the dots before an attack, not after.

I just find the whole politicization of the dead ambassador pretty distasteful.