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Old 09-17-2012, 10:59 AM
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I like Truman. I wish we'd get a plain speaker back in office.

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"Mitt Romney shoots first and aims later"....sounds pretty plain to me. Harry would have been proud...
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:44 AM
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Obama = Truman?

'That's what happens when you've got a goddam fool in the White House' - Truman, on Eisenhower, after Castro went to the reds - on record.

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Obama = Truman?

'That's what happens when you've got a goddam fool in the White House' - Truman, on Eisenhower, after Castro went to the reds - on record.

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Truman had the luxury of being an ex-president when he said that. Also, I doubt that remark was meant for public consumption.

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And, in fairness to Ike, no fool, it was probably the result of having a god damned fool in the State Department and his idiot brother as DCI.

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Agreed about him being ex President. It was said on record to a reporter.

Obama = Truman (or FDR) comments kill me

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Old 09-17-2012, 12:09 PM
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Agreed about him being ex President. It was said on record to a reporter.

Obama = Truman (or FDR) comments kill me

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Me too. Obama is MUCH better than either of them!

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So after nearly 25 years in the KC area, we finally went to the Truman Museum today; and we will be going back soon. What a great review of that period of American history. And I took notes. A few of the tidbits that I brought home:

Farming taught him that hard work alone did not guarantee success.

He first proposed a system of national health insurance in 1945. In 1965, LBJ travelled to the Truman Library to sign the Medicare Act.

The Marshall plan was described as “the most unsordid act in human history.” It is truly amazing the extent to which we invested in rebuilding Europe.

I liked a line he used in accepting the nomination for his own run for the presidency “Senator Barkley and I will win this election and make the Republicans like it.” Like today, the conservative columnists inaccurately denigrated his leadership ability.

He pissed off labor during his first presidency by intervening in strikes. As a result, the GOP took over congress during the mid-term elections. When Truman was running for his own presidential term, he told a labor gathering that “if you stay home like you did last time and let these reactionaries stay in power you’ll deserve any blow you get.” Sound like a message to the working people of today?

Truman was moved by the conditions he saw Blacks suffer after the war, and introduced civil rights legislation, which was defeated in Congress. Truman took some steps on his own by integrating the military and issuing an executive order banning discrimination in federal jobs. Truman’s efforts toward civil rights caused Strom Thurmond to leave the Democratic party (good riddance) and run as a third party candidate for president (winning four states). A statement from Thurmond: “There are not enough troops on the Army to force the Southern People to admit Negroes into our theaters, swimming pools & homes.”

Finally, showing his true wisdom, he stated: “I salute baseball as our greatest sport.”

I’m going to have to find a good Truman biography.

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Thanks!
I hope to spend some time this winter reading a lot about Truman and LBJ.
I am fascinated by these two colorful pres.
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Agreed about him being ex President. It was said on record to a reporter.

Obama = Truman (or FDR) comments kill me

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OH YEAH it must be hard having to put up with the Bush=Hoover, Harding, Coolidge, Nixon comparisons....

Just wait for Biden Pete..more salty talk!
Parties that nominate witches for senator will probably not be in the executive branch anytime soon
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Thanks!
I hope to spend some time this winter reading a lot about Truman and LBJ.
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You have to read The Path to Power by Robert Caro if you want the warts and all (LBJ as the devil sort of) about Johnson....

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http://www.amazon.com/Path-Power-Yea...+to+power+caro
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