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Old 05-04-2011, 01:26 PM
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I think that there is a difference between bashing religion and questioning the rituals, questioning the assertions, and questioning the way people interpret religious texts. Honestly evaluating myself, I am religious, but not devout. I don't believe that people who don't believe the same as I do are going to Hell. I respect the right of others to profess their own faith, or to profess no faith at all. The beliefs of another don't diminish my beliefs, and I don't intend to take action to diminish another's beliefs. If I do happen to live my life in a way that causes other people to inquire into my beliefs, I will share what I believe and why. Unfortunately, I doubt too many would see me as a role model.

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Old 05-04-2011, 02:42 PM
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Is there a purpose for this thread other than to bash religion, or Catholics, or both?
nope. feel free to join in
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:09 PM
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I was just remarking on the beatification ritual and the willingness of Rome to glom on to the nun's story with the supporting rationale of "there is no explanation using current scientific knowledge" and therefore it must have been the result of prayers to the dead Pope.
That's why they call it "faith."

Also, there are other alleged examples of individuals asking for JP's intercession, and seeing their prayers answered.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religio...es_26_ST_N.htm
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:11 PM
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I don't believe that people who don't believe the same as I do are going to Hell.
I guess then that there must be other reasons why folks always tell me to go to hell.
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:17 PM
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That's why they call it "faith."

Also, there are other alleged examples of individuals asking for JP's intercession, and seeing their prayers answered.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religio...es_26_ST_N.htm
And do you actually believe such stuff? If so, you're in no position to criticize Muslim terrorists expecting dozens of virgins IMHO.
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:31 PM
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I guess then that there must be other reasons why folks always tell me to go to hell.
if you need any help in understanding why they tell you this just pm me and i'll explain
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:15 PM
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I guess then that there must be other reasons why folks always tell me to go to hell.
If an atheist told you that, would it really be cursing?

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Old 05-05-2011, 06:10 AM
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And do you actually believe such stuff? If so, you're in no position to criticize Muslim terrorists expecting dozens of virgins IMHO.
You're right, of course. One should have no reason to hope their love life is any better in heaven than it is on Earth.

So, you're suggesting that those who might attribute a favorable outcome to their prayers for a cure to their own affliction or for the improved health of a loved one to their God or thier religious beliefs are no better than a blood-thirsty terrorist? That's an interesting, and I hope singular, perspective.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:31 AM
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You're right, of course. One should have no reason to hope their love life is any better in heaven than it is on Earth.

So, you're suggesting that those who might attribute a favorable outcome to their prayers for a cure to their own affliction or for the improved health of a loved one to their God or thier religious beliefs are no better than a blood-thirsty terrorist? That's an interesting, and I hope singular, perspective.
lol

typical disingenuous whell post

here is the bottom line

attributing or predicting actions based on faith is inane and shallow
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:51 AM
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lol

typical disingenuous whell post

here is the bottom line

attributing or predicting actions based on faith is inane and shallow
God Bless You, Noone!
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