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Deist.
Yes, that's the prevailing opinion but it doesn't change what I said. There are indeed some who consider Jefferson to have been a Deist.
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So, let me see if I understand this correctly....
Carson believes that a person elected to public office should set his faith aside to perform his public service duties and not expect others to follow their religious guidance, in this case... Sharia law.

And then, we have a clerk in some backward county refusing to issue marriage certificates......

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Could Carson do this himself?

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Yes, that's the prevailing opinion but it doesn't change what I said. There are indeed some who consider Jefferson to have been a Deist.
Many of the founders were Deists.

Only you can change what you say.
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Could Carson do this himself?

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To be elected the candidate would have to publically separate his faith in Allah from Islam, i.e. remain a Muslim while discarding Islam. Anyone who could pull this off could be a great and potentially dangerous President.
Did Carson disqualify himself?
Ben Carson: Theory Of Evolution Encouraged By The Devil - http://huff.to/1L4lQfW

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Did Carson disqualify himself?
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Not with the base.
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Not with the base.
Welcome to the dark ages redux.

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Islam is the guidance of sharia law and governance there is no separation of "Law" "Islam" and "Governance" in the Moslem World.




The Shariʻah (literally "the path leading to the watering place") is Islamic law formed by traditional Islamic scholarship, which most Muslim groups adhere to. Shariʻah "constitutes a system of duties that are incumbent upon a Muslim by virtue of his or her religious belief

The Quran set the rights, the responsibilities and the rules for people and for societies to adhere to.

Mainstream Islamic law does not distinguish between "matters of church" and "matters of state"; the scholars function as both jurists and theologians. Currently no government conforms to Islamic economic jurisprudence, but steps have been taken to implement some of its tenets.
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Islam is the guidance of sharia law and governance there is no separation of "Law" "Islam" and "Governance" in the Moslem World.




The Shariʻah (literally "the path leading to the watering place") is Islamic law formed by traditional Islamic scholarship, which most Muslim groups adhere to. Shariʻah "constitutes a system of duties that are incumbent upon a Muslim by virtue of his or her religious belief

The Quran set the rights, the responsibilities and the rules for people and for societies to adhere to.

Mainstream Islamic law does not distinguish between "matters of church" and "matters of state"; the scholars function as both jurists and theologians. Currently no government conforms to Islamic economic jurisprudence, but steps have been taken to implement some of its tenets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
Quite true, especially for fundamentalists. I expect there is a range of believers who can observe their tenets and still coexist in a broader environment as do Jews and Christian in general. The uncompromising fundamentalist fanatics are a pain in the rear for the rest of us.

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Quite true, especially for fundamentalists. I expect there is a range of believers who can observe their tenets and still coexist in a broader environment as do Jews and Christian in general. The uncompromising fundamentalist fanatics are a pain in the rear for the rest of us.

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Not one Moslem country follows any other law but Sharia. Are they all uncompromising fundamentalist fanatics then?


Sharia or sharia law is the Islamic legal system derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith. The term sharia comes from the Arabic language term sharīʿah, which means a body of moral and religious law derived from religious prophecy, as opposed to human legislation.

Sharia deals with many topics, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, everyday etiquette and fasting. Adherence to sharia has served as one of the distinguishing characteristics of the Muslim faith historically. In its strictest and most historically coherent definition, sharia is considered in Islam as the infallible law of God.
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Steve a western liberal mind can twist and spin this all day long but it doesn't change Islamic beliefs.

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