Why?

[noonereal]

Many sports have been closed to blacks for both socioeconomic reasons and racism over the years. Hence when someone black "breaks through" it is correct to mention this.

I am sure if a white man is ever found that can jump the media will point this out as a big story as well.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

You are aware that all beer in Ontario is only sold through government stores, there is a goodly chunk of tax in that $40.

And from what I understand, it pays a significant portion of their national health care system (or so says my cousin in Kingston, ON). Seems like a decent trade-off to me, particularly since I drink so little beer anymore (though I bet the Canadians also have high prices on my preferred libation, single malt Scotch.)

[Brett A]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Many sports have been closed to blacks for both socioeconomic reasons and racism over the years. (...)

Not to mention the process of self-segregating. What we white people generally fail to notice is that people-of-color live in a white world. And in this country, they always have. I'm sure there are some white folks reading this that feel uncomfortable when they realize they are the only caucasian on a full subway car, or a busy street or crowded market. This is the closest personal experience I can think of that opens some empathy for the experience of living as a minority. But it goes w/o saying that I don't have 400 years of being enslaved to further inform the experience.

One way I can relate this to sports is in cycling. That's a very white sport IMO (and one that I do myself). I meet very few African American road riders, and I've never ridden a mountain bike with a person of color. I wonder if showing up at a group ride as a person of color might elicit the kind of "visitor in a white world" experience I'm talking about.

(---and no, simply having a discussion about race, and asking these questions does not qualify a person as a racist. In order to truly get past it, it's time to talk more about race, not less IMO)

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Brett A

One way I can relate this to sports is in cycling. That's a very white sport IMO ...

As is hockey, swimming, tennis, polo (and anything else involving horses), sailing, rowing, the shooting sports, ....... I think there are socio-economic factors at play here too.

[Brett A]

Originally Posted by finnbow

....... I think there are socio-economic factors at play here too.

That's true, I'm sure. Class and race and easily combined/confused.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I know that you spoke as a racist out of the box here at Political Chat (when the site launched.) It was so natural for you that you seemed surprised when I challanged you on it.

Other than that I don't know to much except that I get under your skin when I challenge you in race related matters and that other than that your a good egg even if you have been a little more than rude to me on occasion.

I'd still buy you a the beer if I ever met ya.

It's that GOP reliance on short attention spans that may work with so many in their base.......but isn't going to work with us.

[BlueStreak]

Oh, and coming from Scottish and English heritage, I'll thank you to refer to me as British-American.

How dare you try to deny me my heritage, Jay!!!

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Oh, and coming from Scottish and English heritage, I'll thank you to refer to me as British-American.

How dare you try to deny me my heritage, Jay!!!

As a Brit can you exp[lain to me why Britain has a women's soccer team in the Olympics instead of the Irish, English and Scotts each having their own?

[BlueStreak]

Britain = England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Oh, and coming from Scottish and English heritage, I'll thank you to refer to me as British-American.

How dare you try to deny me my heritage, Jay!!!

German\Englisch American here. I need a bier.