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09-28-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Throughout history it has been shown good people are need to be around to repair the acts of the bad. These times will not last forever.
Not all will be willing to be "Dead not Red" to coin a old term. But rather staying alive to fight the good fight.
Even in your homeland there were those who were not willing participants. Choose life to survive and help to rebuild after a very dark period in history.
This will pass.
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And how bad is this time?
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09-28-2018, 01:09 PM
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Different times, different circumstances, but it is about a breakdown of systemic checks and balances by consolidation of powers to an authoritarian leader.
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09-28-2018, 01:52 PM
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I don't remember a time when blatant open and unashamedly Obstruction of Justice is seen as being normal by one party. Where staying in power outweighs the country interests.
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09-30-2018, 02:41 AM
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Stephen Miller writing the speech Trump gave at the UN and became the laughing stock around the world.
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Freedom for us, order for everyone else, and violence for those who transgress.
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09-28-2018, 11:54 AM
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Classic Christian doctrine holds despair as a sin. While I personally believe in neither Christianity nor sin, I still see the moral wisdom in this.
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09-28-2018, 12:25 PM
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Classic Christian doctrine holds despair as a sin. While I personally believe in neither Christianity nor sin, I still see the moral wisdom in this.
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Only if one believes "sin" to be inherent and involuntary.
Despair is involuntary, ones' reaction to it may or may not be. The difficulty resisting a self-destructive response is the issue.
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09-29-2018, 07:01 AM
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Only if one believes "sin" to be inherent and involuntary.
Despair is involuntary, ones' reaction to it may or may not be. The difficulty resisting a self-destructive response is the issue.
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I sort of challenge 'involuntary.' When an emotional reaction like that comes along, you sort of have options sometimes. You can jump on and ride it, or you can argue with it, or you can just wait for it to go away.
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09-29-2018, 09:04 AM
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I sort of challenge 'involuntary.' When an emotional reaction like that comes along, you sort of have options sometimes. You can jump on and ride it, or you can argue with it, or you can just wait for it to go away.
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Waiting or distraction works most of the time, a pile-on of overwhelming challenges can overcome such measures. "Riding" despair is something I wouldn't do, the path goes down in a death spiral.
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09-28-2018, 09:47 PM
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Every time Ford and Kavanaugh dodged a question, in one chart
Kavanaugh's angry and highly partisan diatribe shows he's definitely not qualified to be an impartial jurist. His evasive answers and non-answers to a very large number of the questions, his combative and disrespectful attitude towards United States Senators is surely disqualifying. He's completely unlike Neil Gorsuch, who several Dems voted for. He, like Clarence Thomas, will forever have an asterisk after his name when confirmed.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-hearing-chart
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09-29-2018, 01:08 AM
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Kavanaugh's college friends say he lied under oath about drinking
This guy is, like Donny, a serial liar.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/...-1332528195898
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