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11-17-2011, 03:12 PM
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I suspect that they would receive unemployment.
Not likely in Missouri.
Serious concerns like getting laid by their fellow protestors, blocking traffic, or trashing police cars?
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The OWS folks really frighten you, don't they.
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11-17-2011, 03:44 PM
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The OWS folks really frighten you, don't they.
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Not at all. They're great fun. They serve as great examples of why liberal policies don't work, and they're great poster children for Obama's re-election campaign. I hope they stay around for a very long time.
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11-17-2011, 04:14 PM
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Not at all. They're great fun. They serve as great examples of why liberal policies don't work, and they're great poster children for Obama's re-election campaign. I hope they stay around for a very long time.
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Huh? So, I suppose that the Tea Party is a poster child for the failure of conservative policies.
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11-18-2011, 06:31 AM
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Huh? So, I suppose that the Tea Party is a poster child for the failure of conservative policies.
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As Reagan once said, "There you go again." I think enough evidence has accumulated by now to demonstrate that there is no, zip, zero, nada comparison between the Occupy folks and the Tea Party crowd.
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11-18-2011, 07:00 AM
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As Reagan once said, "There you go again." I think enough evidence has accumulated by now to demonstrate that there is no, zip, zero, nada comparison between the Occupy folks and the Tea Party crowd.
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Your assertion was that the existence of the OWS crowd was proof that liberal policies don't work. I'm not arguing that liberal (or conservative) policies work, just that the existence of OWS doesn't, in and of itself, prove anything.
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11-18-2011, 09:31 AM
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Your assertion was that the existence of the OWS crowd was proof that liberal policies don't work. I'm not arguing that liberal (or conservative) policies work, just that the existence of OWS doesn't, in and of itself, prove anything.
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FWIW, I thought that it was pretty obvious what you meant.
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11-18-2011, 09:56 AM
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I'm not arguing that liberal (or conservative) policies work, just that the existence of OWS doesn't, in and of itself, prove anything.
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Sue it does. The existence of the OWS proves quite a bit, actually.
It proves that the constant drum-beat of class warfare from the left resonates with a certain portion - albeit a pretty unsavory portion - of the body politic.
It proves, after a century of evidence to the contrary, that some folks still think socialism is the answer.
It proves that hate can be a powerful motivating force.
It proves that folks some folks would rather be taken care of than take care of themselves.
It proves that some folks are dumb enough to think that the government can fix economic injustice, while centuries of evidence demonstrate that more often than not governments are the cause of economic injustice.
There's plenty more, but the server may lack the capacity.
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11-19-2011, 06:27 AM
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Sue it does. The existence of the OWS proves quite a bit, actually.
It proves that the constant drum-beat of class warfare from the left resonates with a certain portion - albeit a pretty unsavory portion - of the body politic.
Are you saying there has been no "Class Warfare" coming from the right? I wonder who funds all of this anti-labor propaganda? Let's see; Who benefits most directly from tax cuts for----the 1%? Oh, there's class warfare being waged against the working class alright. It's just that the high dollar propagandists on the right are much better at what they do.
It proves, after a century of evidence to the contrary, that some folks still think socialism is the answer.
It proves that hate can be a powerful motivating force.
It sure is. Do terms like "Welfare Queen", "Union Thug", "Godless Progressives", etc., etc. sound familiar? Yes, hate is a very powerful motivator. Just ask Rove, Beck and Limbaugh, they've made tons of money off of it.
It proves that folks some folks would rather be taken care of than take care of themselves.
Some folks have no choice, and you damn well know it. You just don't care because cutting them off might save you some pocket change. What was that about the "Love of Money"?
It proves that some folks are dumb enough to think that the government can fix economic injustice, while centuries of evidence demonstrate that more often than not governments are the cause of economic injustice.
Wow. How quick do you think any "social injustice" gets "fixed" without government intervention? Let's see, for how many centuries has slavery (For example) existed in societies where no one intervenes? Hmmmmm? No. You identify the injustice and you put a stop to it. It's not perfect, but it works. A hell of a lot quicker than waiting for divine intervention, that's for sure. I can't help but wonder how many choirboys were raped over the last 2,000 years waiting for the Catholic Church to grow a conscience?
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Your arguments are still as weak as always, I see.
Dave
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11-17-2011, 10:16 PM
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Not at all. They're great fun. They serve as great examples of why liberal policies don't work, and they're great poster children for Obama's re-election campaign. I hope they stay around for a very long time.
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Good job you weren't around to tell the founding fathers that.
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11-18-2011, 06:33 AM
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Good job you weren't around to tell the founding fathers that.
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Are you attempting to make some comparison between liberalism 240 years ago, and liberalism today? Good luck with that.
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