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Old 05-21-2014, 12:03 AM
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American law only applies on US soil. Therein lies the difference. Designate them enemy combatants and legal system does not apply. Rumsfeld said so and that's good enough for me.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:08 AM
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Thanks, a trial by peers is the only rule of law. When you allow a government arbitrarily decide that's a totalitarian regime.
Except a regular trial is impossible under the circumstances. I just want a judge to review the evidence and sign off on the use of lethal force.

I agree that it's better that the executive not have the power to do this without concurrence of the other branches. Though I'd wait for the purges and concentration camps to actually ramp up before I'd go to the 'totalitarian' rhetoric. You waste the words right now, and what are you going to use when a real 'totalitarian regime' comes along?
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:17 AM
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Except a regular trial is impossible under the circumstances. I just want a judge to review the evidence and sign off on the use of lethal force.

I agree that it's better that the executive not have the power to do this without concurrence of the other branches. Though I'd wait for the purges and concentration camps to actually ramp up before I'd go to the 'totalitarian' rhetoric. You waste the words right now, and what are you going to use when a real 'totalitarian regime' comes along?
Kind of like one search warrant NSA got to spy on everyone?


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Old 05-21-2014, 12:24 AM
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Except a regular trial is impossible under the circumstances. I just want a judge to review the evidence and sign off on the use of lethal force.

I agree that it's better that the executive not have the power to do this without concurrence of the other branches. Though I'd wait for the purges and concentration camps to actually ramp up before I'd go to the 'totalitarian' rhetoric. You waste the words right now, and what are you going to use when a real 'totalitarian regime' comes along?
And, that is the clarion view.

A whole lot of shrill, alarmist vitriol has been tossed about the last five-six years, most of it having little or no basis in reality. It has become obvious to me that Americans are thoroughly spoiled by our extremely lenient form of government and thus haven't the slightest clue what real tyranny looks like.

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Old 05-21-2014, 12:31 AM
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And, that is the clarion view.

A whole lot of shrill, alarmist vitriol has been tossed about the last five-six years, most of it having little or no basis in reality. It has become obvious to me that Americans are thoroughly spoiled by our extremely lenient form of government and thus haven't the slightest clue what real tyranny looks like.

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Some American fled it Dave that's pretty narrow minded don't you think?
Needless to say we are heading there in short order.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:41 AM
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Yes, they did. And, I'm pretty sure they think those fools in Nevada are making a big to do over nothing.

And, no, we're not.

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Old 05-21-2014, 08:35 AM
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While I agree a lot of this is necessary I seem to remember a certain party running against it not that long ago.

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Old 05-21-2014, 03:03 PM
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The only thing this guy deserves is interpersonal scorn. The appropriate reply to any post from 5 below is a firm statement of...uh...interpersonal scorn...yep, that's it. I can't think of any better description of what his posts deserve.

Obama wants to murder American citizens with drones. The teabaggers are right...he's an anti-colonialist, bloodthirsty Kenyan junglebunny witchdoctor.

Take a fucking hike 5 below. This place is no better than AK? Good. Get the fuck out then.
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