The Sanders Surge - Page 4

JJIII · #31 08-06-2015, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum

Everyone always complains about gridlock - this is the way our system was designed - I marvel at the genius of it. I prefer an executive branch of one party and a Congress held by another.

It is contentious, argumentative, and infuriatingly slow - but it is exactly that nerve grinding, snail's pace process that allows all sides to be heard (ad nauseam at times) and no policies that will affect the lives of millions to be made with undue haste in an arbitrary fashion.

It demands intelligent, driven people to make it work well - Bill Clinton and a Republican Congress could barely stand the sight of each other, but put that aside and passed a great many bills and balanced the budget.

Unless you throw in an Executive Order now and then.

Rajoo · #32 08-06-2015, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JJIII

Unless you throw in an Executive Order now and then.

That's the Boehner effect and think of it as antitrust for the GOP. House has voted 54 times to limit, defund or repeal Obamacare. So how do you define insanity again?

Boreas · #33 08-06-2015, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum

Everyone always complains about gridlock - this is the way our system was designed - I marvel at the genius of it. I prefer an executive branch of one party and a Congress held by another.

It is contentious, argumentative, and infuriatingly slow - but it is exactly that nerve grinding, snail's pace process that allows all sides to be heard (ad nauseam at times) and no policies that will affect the lives of millions to be made with undue haste in an arbitrary fashion.

It demands intelligent, driven people to make it work well - Bill Clinton and a Republican Congress could barely stand the sight of each other, but put that aside and passed a great many bills and balanced the budget.

Do you approve of the way the Republicans in Congress have behaved toward the president?

icenine · #34 08-06-2015, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Do you approve of the way the Republicans in Congress have behaved toward the president?

They have not seen him as legitimate except on one issue...the TTP deal.
I suppose if he came out for Keystone they would welcome it. I still believe the debt default of 2011 and the Cruz shutdown would not have happened with a white President.

The idiot on Morning Joe was whining about how Obama was "equating" the hardliners in Iran with hardliners in the GOP Senate re the recent Iran nuke deal, forgetting of course that just a few days ago a Republican GOP candidate was equating Obama with the Holocaust.

JJIII · #35 08-06-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn

That's the Boehner effect and think of it as antitrust for the GOP. House has voted 54 times to limit, defund or repeal Obamacare. So how do you define insanity again?

I wasn't speaking of any particular administration. Th e EO can be and has been abused by many.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/e...-in-one-chart/

That's a lot of EOs, don't ask me how many were the right thing to do.

Rajoo · #36 08-06-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JJIII

I wasn't speaking of any particular administration. Th e EO can be and has been abused by many.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/e...-in-one-chart/

That's a lot of EOs, don't ask me how many were the right thing to do.

You got me there.

Thanks for the interesting bar chart.

Tom Joad · #37 08-10-2015, 11:08 AM

28,000 last night in Portland!

15,000 the night before in Seattle.

And tonight it's Los Angeles!

The left coast loves them some Bernie!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...campaign-says/

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Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont who has emerged as the leading alternative to Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination, appeared at a Portland arena with a capacity close to 20,000, aides said. An additional 8,000 people gathered in overflow areas set up for the event, aides said, citing numbers provided by officials from the venue.

bobabode · #38 08-10-2015, 12:47 PM

The scuttlebutt has it that the alleged 'B.L.M.' protester who jumped Bernie in Seattle is a Sarah Palin minion.

Bernie should come down to Orange county after LA. We are the home of the 'free range' Tea Partiers who drive around in Porsche, Audi and Mercedes SUVs.

Tom Joad · #39 08-10-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode

Bernie should come down to Orange county after LA.

He's in LA tonight.

What's that?

10 minutes away from you on the Interstate?

What the Hell do you want?

Him to come to your front door?

Rajoo · #40 08-10-2015, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

He's in LA tonight.

What's that?

10 minutes away from you on the Interstate?

What the Hell do you want?

Him to come to your front door?

LA = Hollywood, Orange County = Disneyland.
Therein lies the difference. And actually would be a lot faster to fly from Burbank to John Wayne airport to get to Orange County.