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Old 09-21-2015, 08:11 PM
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US paid out $51,000,000.00 in fees for these cars.
http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...922-story.html
They've really screwed the pooch this time!

Sad, really that such a respected and innovative company would stoop to this sort of thing.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:28 PM
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This was a deliberate trickery and not some simple fudging.
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:45 AM
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Michael Horn, Boss of Volkswagen America: "Wir haben es total verbockt!" which means precisely: "We totally fucked up!"
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Michael Horn, Boss of Volkswagen America: "Wir haben es total verbockt!" which means precisely: "We totally fucked up!"
I bet the S.O.B. wouldn't have given a crap if they hadn't been caught! We shouldn't allow one more Hitler Mobile into this country.
If nothing else, they should be treated like the Confederate flag.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:03 AM
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Sorry - I was wrong. He did not say: "We totally fucked up!", he said: "We've totally screwed up!", which is pretty much the same.

But what the hell is a Hitler Mobile? Do you mean the beetle which has been deeply loved by zillions of Amercians for many decades?
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:12 AM
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Why the hell would they risk it??
I'd assume someone in upper management somehow made a killing off it before retiring. Then it was someone else's problem.

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Well since they have a poor reliability record VW probably wanted to spare their customers trips to the dealer to deal with emission problems since they have to go there all the time for engine repairs. I thought about a TDI when I saw some on sale here on base but I went with a Honda instead.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:10 AM
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Well since they have a poor reliability record VW probably wanted to spare their customers trips to the dealer to deal with emission problems since they have to go there all the time for engine repairs. I thought about a TDI when I saw some on sale here on base but I went with a Honda instead.
I believe that the original reliability issues began with cars assembled in Mexico. I too thought about a TDI wagon but was discouraged (though great mileage) and instead bought an AWD Honda Element for my wife.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:17 AM
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I believe that the original reliability issues began with cars assembled in Mexico. I too thought about a TDI wagon but was discouraged (though great mileage) and instead bought an AWD Honda Element for my wife.
I keep hearing about how expensive German designed cars are to maintain.
True or not I do not want to take chances. I think I paid about $3000 for various repairs to my CRV between 2006-2015, and some of those were at the dealer and some where more expensive because I needed it done THAT day.

I would be afraid to think what one trip to a BMW dealer would be.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:39 AM
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Sadly there is no such thing as american anymore...
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Just payed 527 euros today for the 2 years interval service of my 2004 Golf.
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