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Old 03-16-2014, 07:58 AM
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:22 AM
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They gave us a big green statue, and won't let us forget about it.

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Old 03-16-2014, 08:23 AM
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Americans, and most particularly the Right, hate the French because they're so much like us. They're nationalistic, believe that others should speak their language, and tend to believe in their own exceptionalism. Moreover, they told us that invading Iraq was a bad idea and they were right. The nerve.

I've traveled through France dozens of times and have never had an issue. In fact, I find it a pretty exceptional country - great food, great wine, great art, great skiing, great sights and beautiful women. What's not to like?
I was being facetious in the OP. I was in the South of France for two weeks back in the '80s. Cannes, Nice and Toulon. Even Toulon wasn't bad, if you didn't behave like a jackass. Cannes and Nice were beautiful.

The dislike of the French most recently, I believe, was fomented by our own government over instances when we found ourselves at odds with them. Over the Iraq war, etc. Rightwingers fall for it more readily because...........well, they always seem to need foreigners to loathe.

I was once told that the French were why we "...ended up in Vietnam. To take care of something they were too weak to finish."

Ummmmm....... We never "finished" Vietnam, either.

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Old 03-16-2014, 08:26 AM
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They gave us more than that.

How many Frenchmen died fighting in our revolution? Look at the contributions in aviation, art and science.

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But, have no idea why.

Anyone care to explain?

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Personally if it because of their perceived smugness, opinionated vociferous bravado. The French come is a distant second to my fellow Americans.


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I was being facetious in the OP. I was in the South of France for two weeks back in the '80s. Cannes, Nice and Toulon. Even Toulon wasn't bad, if you didn't behave like a jackass. Cannes and Nice were beautiful.

The dislike of the French most recently, I believe, was fomented by our own government over instances when we found ourselves at odds with them. Over the Iraq war, etc. Rightwingers fall for it more readily because...........well, they always seem to need foreigners to loathe.

I was once told that the French were why we "...ended up in Vietnam. To take care of something they were too weak to finish."

Ummmmm....... We never "finished" Vietnam, either.

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Probably because both militaries tried to fight a conventional war against an enemy that was anything but conventional.
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I've traveled through France dozens of times and have never had an issue. In fact, I find it a pretty exceptional country - great food, great wine, great art, great skiing, great sights and beautiful women. What's not to like?
Sounds like California.

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What would happen to a new PC member coming out as French?

Okay. Seriously - I heard about an aversion of Americans against French even in the "Simpsons" TV show. But I never undestood the reason for that. It must be a historical one, maybe when America was young ther was a severe incident and then as a result of this incident an aversion had been passed on by generations?
If it weren't for the French, we would never have gained out independence from Britain in 1776.

If not for the French, the British would have taken the country back in 1812.

How could we not hate those cheese-eating bastards?

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Old 03-16-2014, 09:48 AM
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I was once told that the French were why we "...ended up in Vietnam. To take care of something they were too weak to finish."

Ummmmm....... We never "finished" Vietnam, either.

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It's also important to remember that the French collapse in Indochina was precipitated in part by a broken promise. We had agreed to assist the French military at the siege of Diem Bien Phu. We promised to send US aircraft to assist the French forces being decimated there but, somehow, we just sorta didn't.

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It's also important to remember that the French collapse in Indochina was precipitated in part by a broken promise. We had agreed to assist the French military at the siege of Diem Bien Phu. We promised to send US aircraft to assist the French forces being decimated there but, somehow, we just sorta didn't.

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I guess we wanted to see them fail so we could take over the show.
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