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Old 03-04-2017, 04:19 PM
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Too true and the civil rights movement comes immediately to mind. It was citizens leading the way and doing most of the work.

The army was one of the first establishment organizations to support, albeit subtly, the cause.
Fifty-percent true. It still took an establishment President to sign an executive order or piece of progressive legislation to ratify grassroots change. All of our greatest legislation has been signed by professional political hacks.

Trump is indeed an exception. He has to make the leap to the assembly line.
He embraces the establishment or becomes neutered.

The only difference now is that he may keep his position because Americans might not care if nothing gets done.
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You honestly think a person of Trump's temperament isn't Easy Meat for a manipulative confidant who knows how to stroke his ever-needy ego?
Absolutely.

Bannon may be a pit bull, but Trump is the Ultimate Alpha Dog.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:23 PM
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I readily admit with pride that I am on the government gravy train.
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Absolutely.

Bannon may be a pit bull, but Trump is the Ultimate Alpha Dog.
Nope. Just plays one on TV. You just buy it because he presses your buttons.
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Nope. Just plays one on TV. You just buy it because he presses your buttons.
Maybe so.

But that's my assessment and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:40 PM
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Fifty-percent true. It still took an establishment President to sign an executive order or piece of progressive legislation to ratify grassroots change. All of our greatest legislation has been signed by professional political hacks.

Trump is indeed an exception. He has to make the leap to the assembly line.
He embraces the establishment or becomes neutered.

The only difference now is that he may keep his position because Americans might not care if nothing gets done.
I don't accept your grade and will discuss it with the professor. Like an establishment guy you're claiming credit where none is due. You described how the system works - the squeakiest wheel gets the most grease. And because the cause was just, the establishment acknowledged it, the wheel just got squeakier and squeakier as more and more citizens actively, tacitly or silently joined the movement.
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I don't accept your grade and will discuss it with the professor. Like an establishment guy you're claiming credit where none is due. You described how the system works - the squeakiest wheel gets the most grease. And because the cause was just, the establishment acknowledged it, the wheel just got squeakier and squeakier as more and more citizens actively, tacitly or silently joined the movement.
I have to go out. Since I don't have to wait for Uber I don't have any time to waste on you.
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I readily admit with pride that I am on the government gravy train.

You on the other hand get all feisty and defensive when I point out the fact that you are on it too.

What's the prob Ice?

You feel guilty?
No.
You are just temporary.
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I have to go out. Since I don't have to wait for Uber I don't have any time to waste on you.
Thanks for upping my grade to a B.

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No.
You are just temporary.
Just be sure and keep to the enlisted cars.
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