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Old 12-10-2017, 05:32 PM
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"How do you use an anonymous source? The mysteries of journalism everyone should know."

A PSA on journalism by Whell's favorite newspaper.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.6c7c9b8f9bf1

"When Houston Chronicle reporters want to use information from an unnamed source in a news story, they have to jump through a few hoops first.
A senior editor has to approve it, and know who the source is. A single unnamed source is rarely enough to go ahead with a story — there must be two sources with the same firsthand knowledge. And one of a handful of top editors must sign off on its use before publication.
“The one exception to the two-source rule is when we have a ‘golden source’ — for example, the police chief talking about an investigation,” said Nancy Barnes, the Chronicle’s executive editor.****
The vetting process is similar at many large news organizations — and it’s just one of the practices that journalists assume, perhaps incorrectly, that news consumers understand.
Anonymous sourcing is one of the least-understood of the mysteries.

“A lot of people seem to think that when we use anonymous sources, we don’t even know who they are — that they’re anonymous to us,” said Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery.
That’s definitely not the case. Anonymity is granted to known sources under tightly controlled circumstances because they can’t speak on the record with their names attached for a variety of reasons." WaPo
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:44 AM
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And this exemplifies how far this country has fallen.
This is true if one buys into the historical myth taught to us in school and reinforced by mainstream consumer history.

Although when it comes to relative national wealth, we have indeed fallen a long way since the end of WWII and will continue to do so. Thing is, as a nation we are still very relatively wealthy.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:51 AM
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Jeff Flake went on to the floor of the Senate and skewered Lying Donnie Dotard for his profound dishonesty, cries of "Fake News," and autocratic instincts.

"Mr. President, it is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by Josef Stalin to describe his enemies. It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase 'enemy of the people,' that even Nikita Khrushchev forbade its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin for the purpose of 'annihilating such individuals' who disagreed with the supreme leader...

This alone should be a source of great shame for us in this body, especially for those of us in the president's party. For they are shameful, repulsive statements. And, of course, the president has it precisely backward - despotism is the enemy of the people. The free press is the despot's enemy, which makes the free press the guardian of democracy. When a figure in power reflexively calls any press that doesn't suit him "fake news," it is that person who should be the figure of suspicion, not the press.""


https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/je...tream-updates/

He also took clear aim at Trump sycophants and enablers (e.g., the type of person who would start a disingenuous attack on the press in a thread like this in an effort to support a compulsive liar).
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:43 AM
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Sen McCain also stands up to Trump and his enablers (that’s fools like you, Whell), defending the crucial role of the press.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...t-op-ed-343236
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:51 AM
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"How do you use an anonymous source? The mysteries of journalism everyone should know."

A PSA on journalism by Whell's favorite newspaper.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.6c7c9b8f9bf1

"When Houston Chronicle reporters want to use information from an unnamed source in a news story, they have to jump through a few hoops first.
A senior editor has to approve it, and know who the source is. A single unnamed source is rarely enough to go ahead with a story — there must be two sources with the same firsthand knowledge. And one of a handful of top editors must sign off on its use before publication.
“The one exception to the two-source rule is when we have a ‘golden source’ — for example, the police chief talking about an investigation,” said Nancy Barnes, the Chronicle’s executive editor.****
The vetting process is similar at many large news organizations — and it’s just one of the practices that journalists assume, perhaps incorrectly, that news consumers understand.
Anonymous sourcing is one of the least-understood of the mysteries.

“A lot of people seem to think that when we use anonymous sources, we don’t even know who they are — that they’re anonymous to us,” said Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery.
That’s definitely not the case. Anonymity is granted to known sources under tightly controlled circumstances because they can’t speak on the record with their names attached for a variety of reasons." WaPo
Wow!
WaPo trying to add "substantive" to anonymous.
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:53 AM
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Wow!
WaPo trying to add "substantive" to anonymous.
I’d say “deep throat” was pretty substantive. Remained anonymous for years afterward.
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:12 PM
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I’d say “deep throat” was pretty substantive. Remained anonymous for years afterward.
So many articles (from various organs) are loaded with anonymous that WaPo sees the need to address the issue. They know that serious public do not like anonymous.
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:17 PM
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So many articles (from various organs) are loaded with anonymous that WaPo sees the need to address the issue. They know that serious public do not like anonymous.
“Serious public” fully understands anonymous sources. It’s the Fox “News” and Limblow types, with their 4th grade understanding of what real news is, who don’t understand anonymous sources.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:32 PM
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Really Facebook? It really isn’t hard to know which news outlets are trustworthy: NYT, WaPo, Reuters, BBC, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC. Pretty much all the news that’s fit to print.

Block any “news” from outlets like Fox, Limblow, NewsCorp, etc. which don’t subscribe to journalistic standards, and allow nut job opinions as “fact”.

http://www.businessinsider.com/faceb...readers-2018-1
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