The Trump Crime Family - Legal Issues

[Rajoo]

And Mark meadows gets shot down on his appeal to move his GA case to Federal court, four others have filed and so expect them to get turned down.

Unfortunately this is his first appeal, next the full court and then the Catholic Court of the US if he chooses to keep appealing.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/polit...urt/index.html

[Rajoo]

Trump's million-dollar expert 'lost all credibility,' judge in civil fraud trial says

Eli Bartov, a New York University accounting professor, testified on Dec. 7 that he did not see any evidence of fraud in Trump's family real estate company's financial statements, which New York state's attorney general alleges overstated property values in order to win favorable loan and insurance terms.

Bartov testified that he spent 650 hours on the case at a rate of $1,350 per hour, meaning his compensation totaled around $877,500. Bartov said his invoices were paid both by the Trump Organization and by Save America, a political action committee supporting Trump's 2024 election campaign.

"All that his testimony proves is that for a million or so dollars, some experts will say whatever you want them to say," Justice Arthur Engoron wrote in a scathing denial of several requests by Trump for the case to be decided in his favor.

"By doggedly attempting to justify every misstatement, Professor Bartov lost all credibility," Engoron wrote.

Report says both Trump Org and his Save PAC paid the tab, but do not say what % each paid. Sounds more like PR and knowing Trump, he probably paid less than 10% of the tab.

Besides if I want an accountant to audit my books, would I go to a CPA or a college professor? That in itself is a red flag because chances no CPA will touch it with a ten foot pole and this professor took the money and lied to Trump's hearts content.

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-millio...223110080.html

[Chicks]

Clarence Thomas Ally Strikes Killer Blow Against Donald Trump
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadow...munity-1853584

Clarence Thomas ally Judge William Pryor has denied Mark Meadows' bid to move his criminal charges into federal court, suggesting conservative opposition to immunity defenses similarly put forth by Donald Trump.

But in a Monday opinion written by Pryor, an ally of Supreme Court Justice Thomas, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Meadows must fight the charges against him in state court in Atlanta. It added that transfers are only allowed for current government officials, not former ones and that regardless, the charges against Meadows are about actions outside his official duties meaning he cannot claim immunity.

"We cannot rubberstamp Meadows' legal opinion that the president's chief of staff has unfettered authority," Pryor wrote.

"Meadows cannot point to any authority for influencing state officials with allegations of election fraud," he added. "At bottom, whatever the chief of staff's role with respect to state election administration, that role does not include altering valid election results in favor of a particular candidate."

Writing on X, formerly known as Twitter, Lee Kovarsky, professor of law at the University of Texas, said the judgment was "bad for Trump's defense" of his election interference charges because if, as with Meadows, the charges are ruled to be based on actions outside his official duties, he cannot claim presidential immunity.

Kovarsky wrote: "In every way this is bad for Meadows, it's bad for Trump's defense in GEORGIA. Trump was going to claim Supremacy Clause immunity and Presidential immunity, but CA11's opinion on the scope of official duty means that it's going to be impossible for Trump."

"This is ALSO devastating to Trump et al. in the other prosecutions, especially in DC," he continued. "In all of these cases, he's claiming various forms of immunity that turn on the basic idea that he was somehow engaged in good governance, not unlawful electioneering."

He added that it was impossible "to overstate the significance of this opinion being written by Chief Judge Pryor, a conservative stalwart and probably the single biggest circuit court ally to Justice Thomas there is."

So, Whell, unlike you idiot MAGAMorons, this real conservative judge clearly knows the law - and he's a pal of Thomas. Donny's going to prison for a long, long time. Deal with it.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You're this board's most loyal defender of all things Trump...

No, but that's the narrative you think you need to support your chosen debate style. So, whatever works for you, Finnster.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Clarence Thomas Ally Strikes Killer Blow Against Donald Trump
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadow...munity-1853584



So, Whell, unlike you idiot MAGAMorons, this real conservative judge clearly knows the law - and he's a pal of Thomas. Donny's going to prison for a long, long time. Deal with it.

Yawn....

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No, but that's the narrative you think you need to support your chosen debate style. So, whatever works for you, Finnster.

Who specifically has written more on this board in defense of Trump and his minions? Your posts in defense of Trump are at least at order of magnitude greater than anyone else on this board, perhaps two orders of magnitude.

I understand why you might want to walk this back in the midst of his 4 criminal indictments, civil trials, and near daily praise for Hitler, Xi, Putin, and Kim, but your disingenuous revisionism is really quite something to behold particularly as you continue to defend the indefensible.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Who specifically has written more on this board in defense of Trump and his minions? Your posts in defense of Trump are at least at order of magnitude greater than anyone else on this board, perhaps two orders of magnitude.

I understand why you might want to walk this back in the midst of his 4 criminal indictments, civil trials, and near daily praise for Hitler, Xi, Putin, and Kim, but your disingenuous revisionism is really quite something to behold particularly as you continue to defend the indefensible.

He tries to get around that by claiming he's not defending tRump but criticising those who he thinks are unfairly targeting him. Like I've said before, he's not near as clever as he thinks he is.

Long blathering retort 3-2-1...

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Yawn....

Wait till the Scotus tells Trump to go fuck off with his immunity claims.
That should wake you up, but doubt it will make much of a difference.

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