American Greatness/American Decline

[finnbow]

The downturn started in 1980 as a result of Republican trickle-down economics, a failed theory that remains part of GOP doctrine and ironically the source of the consternation in today's GOP about greatness lost.

[Dondilion]

The decline of white America began with opening of American market to the Japanese and the election of Reagan.

The Koreans and Chinese continued the rout with Dubya exacerbating with
his wars and tax give aways.

Reagan had an outsize influence: he gave cover to the supremacy of the market and the destruction of unions.

[icenine]

The gauntlet has been thrown.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'm the one asking questions here. Answer or go away.

No, I didn't answer it and I don't intend to, at least not until the thread has run its course. I'm looking for detailed answers to the questions raised in the article. (Sorry, Bob, "glass half full" ain't gonna cut it.)

Is America no longer great and, if it isn't, when, why and how did it happen or begin to happen?

Let me get this straight.

You want me to read the propaganda that tickles your colon and derive whats wrong with America from that outline?

Needless to say, people who are so ignorant and incurious about the past have a shrunken capacity to analyze the present and plan for the future. Today's GOP is filled with members who dismiss science when they find those truths inconvenient. The Republican denial of history may prove even more reckless to the nation's politics.

^This guy right here would be a start as to whats wrong with America.

[Pio1980]

Our "greatness" was imo leading the way for the world with progressive social advances from the early 20th century thru the civil rights era and beyond. Otherwise, we've been a legend in our own minds with a egocentric regard for ourselves, other nations see us as an opportunistic and avariciously agressive economic influence unwilling to fairly share in spite of our charitable assistance in times of emergency. One of the few things we did right in Central America F.I. was passing the Panama Canal on to its residents.

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[4-2-7]

You want history and what keeps Americans at sub par levels. Lets talk about the Federal Reserve that Woodrow Wilson put in place knowing he destroyed the country doing so.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Let me get this straight.

You want me to read the propaganda that tickles your colon and derive whats wrong with America from that outline?

No, I don't. What I want you to do is stay out of the conversation. You're clearly too dim to even understand the questions I posted.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

You want history and what keeps Americans at sub par levels. Lets talk about the Federal Reserve that Woodrow Wilson put in place knowing he destroyed the country doing so.

So a friend of mine insists, I'm not comvinced. He's iirc an economic Austrian.

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[4-2-7]

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson

Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow Wilson

Years later, reflecting on the major banks’ control in Washington, President Franklin Roosevelt paid this indirect praise to his distant predecessor President Andrew Jackson, who had “killed” the 2nd Bank of the US (an earlier type of the Federal Reserve System). After Jackson’s administration the bankers’ influence was gradually restored and increased, culminating in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Roosevelt knew this history.

The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government ever since
the days of Andrew Jackson… -Franklin D. Roosevelt
(in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)
http://www.themoneymasters.com/the-m...ns-on-banking/

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Our "greatness" was imo leading the way for the world with progressive social advances from the early 20th century thru the civil rights era and beyond. Otherwise, we've been a legend in our own minds with a egocentric regard for ourselves, other nations see us as an opportunistic and avariciously agressive economic influence unwilling to fairly share in spite of our charitable assistance in times of emergency. One of the few things we did right in Central America F.I. was passing the Panama Canal on to its residents.

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I disagree. I think we're aggressively avaricious.