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10-15-2015, 07:10 PM
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No where do I read that Carson implies that that their fate was self inflicted.
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In this you are virtually alone. The implications of his statement are perfectly clear.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carso...-jewish-groups
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-on-holocaust/
So, now he's feuding with the ADL, red meat for his supporters.
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
No where do I read that Carson implies that that their fate was self inflicted.
Carson made a general statement that gun control made the holocaust easier.
His argument, albeit not deep, was not malicious nor impugn the Jews.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/op...holocaust.html
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If there were no gun controls, holocaust could have been prevented? That is insane.
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10-15-2015, 08:21 PM
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The two links do not show where Carson is being malicious. The two links indicate people foaming at the mouth, twisting and blowing up what Carson said.
Carson: If the German population (not Jews in particular) was not subjected to gun control then Hitler would have found it harder to carry out his evil deeds.
I do not agree with Carson's assertion. However his critics have multiplied and embellished and twisted his statement.
I guess anything which touches the holocaust is fraught with noise.
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Carson's assertions, whatever whomever may make of them, are indicative of ignorance serving opinion.
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10-15-2015, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
The two links do not show where Carson is being malicious.
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Why then do the ADL find Carson's remarks offensive?
And do you find it offensive that Carson dismisses their concerns as mere "foolishness"?
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10-15-2015, 10:03 PM
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Carson may have once been a brilliant surgeon and an uplifting figure to the African/American community but he's squandered his reputation in this quest for the GOP nomination. It's a sad coda to his once remarkable life.
Please drop out Ben.
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10-16-2015, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Why then do the ADL find Carson's remarks offensive?
And do you find it offensive that Carson dismisses their concerns as mere "foolishness"?
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The ADL just had to the noise. I guess it did not want to be seen as being left out.
Carson assertion although not deep (A significant portion of the Germans, whether armed or unarmed, was in love with Hitlerism;once Hindenburg passed Hitler had full control of the German professional army) was not offensive.
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10-16-2015, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
The two links do not show where Carson is being malicious. The two links indicate people foaming at the mouth, twisting and blowing up what Carson said.
Carson: If the German population (not Jews in particular) was not subjected to gun control then Hitler would have found it harder to carry out his evil deeds.
I do not agree with Carson's assertion. However his critics have multiplied and embellished and twisted his statement.
I guess anything which touches the holocaust is fraught with noise.
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QFT. Both sides are guilty of this all too often.
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10-16-2015, 06:19 PM
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If there were no gun controls, holocaust could have been prevented? That is insane.
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Is that what he said?
“A More Perfect Union”
"German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler’s regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior … Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance."
Blitzer interview, Carson added
“The likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed.”
And he is right!
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10-16-2015, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JBS...
Is that what he said?
A More Perfect Union
"German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitlers regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior
Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance."
Blitzer interview, Carson added
The likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed.
And he is right!
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Absolutely not!!! Total bullshit.
Neither of you have a clue about this period of German history.
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