Strongest Signal for a Recession Since September 2007

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Ummmm.............

"But anyway if they choose to be lead to slaughter maybe then they will realize who controls politics."

So, who is it that we don't realize controls politics? Enlighten us, please.

Dave

The elite Banksters who control the monetary system and money supply.This is not just in the US but worldwide. If you read my post you would have deciphered that.

There goal is to syphon global wealth with the help of politicians they are able to do this.
Did you just hear this on MSM? Nope

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...st-gold-4-days
Ukrainian Currency Collapses By 28% Against Gold In 4 Days
The political and economic crisis in Ukraine has led to a currency crisis. The Ukrainian hryvnia has fallen by 50.14% against gold in 2014 and by 28% in the last four days alone. Ukrainians who own gold have protected their savings – again showing gold’s safe haven properties.
Ukraine is seeing bank runs, as central bank reserves shrink and some 7% of bank deposits were withdrawn in just 3 days. Bank run fears mean some financial institutions operating in Ukraine closed branches and imposed limits on cash withdrawals this week

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The NSA building is in Utah, Mr. Facts.

Lol had AZ on my mind, Sorry

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

LMAO!!!!

You mean the Super-Secret building that has been going up in plain view, right in front of our eyes for several years, now? The big government monstrosity that sits in the middle of a RED STATE?

That one?

Dave

Nothing was a secret but the Why?

[Samm]

Originally Posted by barbara

...it's easier to hide from truth than to face it.

Please post any truth they offered. Juvenile insults are not truth when you don't even know the person. I look forward to your response.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Nothing was a secret but the Why?

Quite simple Abel they were going to stuff it full of computers to analyze all the stuff they have been collecting.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Samm

Please post any truth they offered. Juvenile insults are not truth when you don't even know the person. I look forward to your response.

I'm finished looking forward to yours.

You're an intellectual (used as a gross term) coward.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

I agree with this observation. I was just about to post the same.

The housing market has seen very little recovery from its 2006 heathy environment.
Also the economist claiming it is the unseasonal cold month of Jan. either are willfully posting bad opinions or they don't know enough to look at that claim from a regional prospective. Sunny California came in last with no other region within half the drop they showed on both starts and new home permit applications.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

"Shadow Stats"............................Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...............!

Holy Shit look at that nosedive from 2000 to about June of '09! Whoever was at the helm of this country through most of that must have been a real LOSER!

Oh, yeah...........................

Dave

Yes the Bush/Obama regimes have both been incredible losers.

[Samm]

[QUOTE=BlueStreak;196914]"Shadow Stats"............................Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...............!

Gee who to believe ..... A guy who I can simply ignore or a man who I have paid money to so I can base my investments on real numbers instead of government hype. I hope you aren't managing anyones money
Decisions, decisions.
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[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Samm

The housing market has seen very little recovery from its 2006 healthy environment.

So, the massive real estate bubble fostered by junk-derivatives was healthy, eh?