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Old 08-04-2009, 11:29 AM
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A rather widely discredited rabble-rouser from a backwater in the middle east about 2000 years ago said that we'd have the poor with us always...
He also suggested that we are our brother's keeper, and something else to the effect that inasmuch as we cared for others we cared for Him. But what do I know, we are just small c christians, can't be bothered with organized religion.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:32 AM
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First, and most important thank you to your family members and to you for such sacrifice.

As to your post suggesting that our troops are risking all to defend capitalism, that is inaccurate.
Our troops are called on to protect our sociaty, weather we be socialist, capitalist or whatever. We determine what we want our sociaty to be and that is in constant metamorphose.
The sociaty comes first, our arguments are in relation to that. I feel capitalism, in it's pure form is bad for the masses. Frankly, I think you would be hard pressed to make a case for a "Capitalist ALL the way" sociaty that was advantageous to the masses.
Do not thank my family for a sacrifice their sons made! I do not know where that statement came from...it's said alot lately. IMO its a cover up by people who have to say something when they walk on a soldiers grave...which in my opinion you did with your socialistic attitudes and opinions on why our soldiers are or are not fighting for FREEDOM. Yes...you do manage to cause alot of discontent. Your views just make us who truly believe in America and the past...stonger. Thank YOU for that.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:56 AM
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Do not thank my family for a sacrifice their sons made! I do not know where that statement came from...it's said allot lately. IMO its a cover up by people who have to say something when they walk on a soldiers grave...which in my opinion you did with your socialistic attitudes and opinions on why our soldiers are or are not fighting for FREEDOM. Yes...you do manage to cause allot of discontent. Your views just make us who truly believe in America and the past...stonger. Thank YOU for that.

It's my American as much as yours, seems you are having a hard time dealing with that. Counseling maybe?

Your closing line is very Palin like, I think we can blame the right wing hate media for this but you still need to take some personal responsibility. How or why any individual thinks that they hold the key to truth as it relates to politics, religion or anything else has always eluded me. Why do you think if my views are different than yours, I am not American? Can you rationally answer?

I think your opinion needs some major reevaluation.

I am sure there are message boards that are 100% right wing hate that you will not be upset by a differing view. Frankly you should be happy here as I am pretty much alone here on the left and I am certainly not far left, especially on foreign policy and defense.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:48 PM
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Frankly you should be happy here as I am pretty much alone here on the left and I am certainly not far left, especially on foreign policy and defense.

It's OK, we'll steer you to the right eventually
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:49 PM
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Bottom right corner, the red lozenge marked Quote.
I just can't figure out how to multiple quote so I can answer. Don't matter though really, you all get what I'm saying mostly.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:49 PM
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It's OK, we'll steer you to the right eventually
LOL, that is where I came from

Bush boy turned me away, although I liked his old man.
(You'll be glad to know I hated Clinton )
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:38 PM
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Everything is relative. Fox appears to be right wing only because ABC, NBC, & CBS are to the left of them. Shrewd marketing on Fox's part. Right wing, hardly.

They all pretty much report the same thing every night. And if Fox is a tool of the wealthy, so are the others.

"The man who reads nothing at all is better informed than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson

Can only imagine what Tom would think of our 24 hr news channels.

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Old 08-04-2009, 05:12 PM
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Everything is relative. Fox appears to be right wing only because ABC, NBC, & CBS are to the left of them. Shrewd marketing on Fox's part. Right wing, hardly.

They all pretty much report the same thing every night. And if Fox is a tool of the wealthy, so are the others.

"The man who reads nothing at all is better informed than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson

Can only imagine what Tom would think of our 24 hr news channels.

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So you believe Fox is fair and balanced?
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:19 PM
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So you believe Fox is fair and balanced?
As much as the rest of them. Certainly no worse.

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Old 08-04-2009, 05:52 PM
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That does surprise me.
Thinking about it though, MSNBC had become the Fox opposite except for two shows so I can understand why you say that.
CNN is fairly even handed but learns left.

Thinking out loud here, maddow, schultz and oberman are cleraly following a left wing idiot script but Beck, hannity and Van Susteren are fair and balanced?
Hard for me to see I admit.
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