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08-04-2009, 08:34 AM
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I have found working hard is relative and is no indicator of success, wealth or happiness.
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Now I get it!
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08-04-2009, 08:40 AM
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Now I get it!
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LOL, somehow I doubt it.
OK, I'll play, what is it you "get."
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08-04-2009, 09:35 AM
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We are one sociaty, we need to do what is best for that sociaty first, the individual comes second
That being said, it seems to me we are rich enough to redistribute the gross excess.
Why have you such disdain for the poor and unfortunate? I am guessing it is because you think it there own fault that they are poor and unfortunate, correct?
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My disdain comes from the constant parading of them by politicians that view them as simply a means to an end. I believe you seem to side with the politicians in that you would know how to better utilize my personal wealth than I ever could. These poor and unfortunate will forever be poor and unfortunate, some due to their own choosing waiting for the man to help them. Guess what, politicians love this as it keeps them feeling needed and in office.
"Now that you mention it I don't recall, including NPR, any news channels that don't almost have an orgasm whenever some new social program is announced. "
When was this? Why is this? (I never listen to NPR.)
Why? Just as much as Fox leans to the right everyone else pretty much leans to the left, especially NPR IMHO. I personally don't believe any of them are on the up and up 100% of the time.
Wish I could figure out the foolish quote thingie
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08-04-2009, 09:40 AM
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On a side bar, I have found working hard is relative and is no indicator of success, wealth or happiness.
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While I find this statement pretty much spot on something struck me odd so I pondered it for a minute. Here's my take on it...
I have found that not working hard or at all is relative and is no indicator of being downtrodden, poor, or unhappy.
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08-04-2009, 10:06 AM
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A rather widely discredited rabble-rouser from a backwater in the middle east about 2000 years ago said that we'd have the poor with us always...
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08-04-2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cabinover
While I find this statement pretty much spot on something struck me odd so I pondered it for a minute. Here's my take on it...
I have found that not working hard or at all is relative and is no indicator of being downtrodden, poor, or unhappy.
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i agree
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08-04-2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
I would think that this means you feel you would benefit from making the rich richer, not that you are rich. This is a popular belief, I am not one who subscribes to that school of thought. No surprise there huh?
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WE make the rich richer? They have their money and talent to continue to be rich. Not everyone was born with a silver spoon in his or her mouth. Sorry....I'm a Capitalist ALL the way. Three family members DIED to protect our freedom of choice and yours... sir or madam as the case may be. I was just a kid...but when my second cousins body was returned to his home town...My aunt wanted his casket to be open. They were unable to do so because there was so little left of him. It burns the hell out of me...these socialistic attitudes. But he died so you could express that also.
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08-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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WE make the rich richer? They have their money and talent to continue to be rich. Not everyone was born with a silver spoon in his or her mouth. Sorry....I'm a Capitalist ALL the way. Three family members DIED to protect our freedom of choice and yours... sir or madam as the case may be. I was just a kid...but when my second cousins body was returned to his home town...My aunt wanted his casket to be open. They were unable to do so because there was so little left of him. It burns the hell out of me...these socialistic attitudes. But he died so you could express that also.
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First, and most important thank you to your family members and to you for such sacrifice.
As to your post suggesting that our troops are risking all to defend capitalism, that is inaccurate.
Our troops are called on to protect our sociaty, weather we be socialist, capitalist or whatever. We determine what we want our sociaty to be and that is in constant metamorphose.
The sociaty comes first, our arguments are in relation to that. I feel capitalism, in it's pure form is bad for the masses. Frankly, I think you would be hard pressed to make a case for a "Capitalist ALL the way" sociaty that was advantageous to the masses.
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08-04-2009, 11:14 AM
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WE make the rich richer? They have their money and talent to continue to be rich. (
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I have found that talent is a small ingredient, connections is the key to wealth.
I admit I base this solely on my life's experience and not on academic research, but I am willing to cover most bets.
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08-04-2009, 11:25 AM
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Wish I could figure out the foolish quote thingie
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Bottom right corner, the red lozenge marked Quote.
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