Durham's Investigations Fizzles

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

It would be folly to refute an opinion. As Ike loves to say: "Opinions are like assholes" etc., etc...

It would have been political malpractice for Hillary not to tie Trump and his campaign to the Russians considering his history of money-laundering for Russians through condo sales, his ongoing (yet denied) Russian hotel project, his campaign's multiple outreach efforts to the Russians, his fawning behavior toward Putin and his campaign manager's ties to Russian intelligence just as it would be malpractice on the part of DOJ not to commence a counterintelligence investigation of Russia's efforts to support Trump and undermine Hillary.

Trump and his campaign richly deserved being implicated and/or prosecuted for their actions surrounding the 2016 election. He's no victim. I'm starting to think your unwavering defense of Trump has to do with your own sense of victimhood (and obvious gullibility) for having being conned by such an obvious fraud and career criminal.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

It would be folly to refute an opinion. As Ike loves to say: "Opinions are like assholes" etc., etc.

Of course, I have an opinion as well. This opinion is as valid as yours. The difference might be the volume of evidence that this opinion is supported by.

The opinion that I have, and have long had, is the whole "Russian Collusion" thing is an election-year dirty trick that took on a life of its own. One of the cornerstones of this opinion is a story that's been circulating for a while:

And that, my friend, is collusion at the highest levels of government, wrapped up in a pretty package to deflect criticism from those who deserve it.

For addressing me as your friend, all is forgiven....and there is a lot to forgive. (BIG GRIN)

Yes to forming your own opinion, but calling it valid is stretching it a bit too far. I have just as much a right not to go there at all.

Finally, why all the bitching and moaning about a "dirty trick" (which I must say only one of the parties ever commit, and that's more than an opinion), it did not impact Trump's victory over HRC. So why all drama now? Want my opinion? I suspect the MAGAforce is setting up their own dirty tricks for the next election and true to form they accuse other of what they do themselves first.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

WTF? Special counsel Robert Mueller found no proof that President Donald Trump criminally colluded with Russia. No proof. Zip. Zero. Nada.


Good Lord!

Good lord! That's not what Mueller said. Mueller said he had not exonerated Trump. And he said that the Russians had clearly interfered in the 2016 election. And we all saw Trump in front of the cameras telling the Russians that they should go ahead and hack his opponent's email servers.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Good lord! That's not what Mueller said. Mueller said he had not exonerated Trump. And he said that the Russians had clearly interfered in the 2016 election. And we all saw Trump in front of the cameras telling the Russians that they should go ahead and hack his opponent's email servers.

Ol' Whell has those blinders screwed down tight. Poor soul...

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Good lord! That's not what Mueller said. Mueller said he had not exonerated Trump. And he said that the Russians had clearly interfered in the 2016 election. And we all saw Trump in front of the cameras telling the Russians that they should go ahead and hack his opponent's email servers.

Originally Posted by bobabode

Ol' Whell has those blinders screwed down tight. Poor soul...

Man, you guys insist on having your own facts. Its EXACTLY what the Mueller report said specific to Russian collusion, which was what the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was about, and Crossfire Hurricane is what the Durham report was about.

Don't want to take my word for it? Here:
Mueller Report Finds No Evidence Of Russian Collusion

As we've been discussing this hour, the special counsel did not find that President Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government - that according to a summary of the conclusions delivered by the - Attorney General William Barr to the Congress.

Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; AG Barr says evidence 'not sufficient' to prosecute

"(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

The crap about Mueller "not exonerating": that's media spin. The media has reported that Trump was not exonerated in his behavior by the Mueller report, and that Mueller and company simply found insufficient criminal evidence to prosecute.

The fact is that prosecutors - special, federal, or otherwise - have no ability in our legal system to exonerate the accused. In fact, the term "exonerated" is actually misused here. You can't be exonerated until you've been convicted.

But, since you brought it up, here's what Mueller did say:

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

[Rajoo]

A Treasury Department statement Thursday offered a potentially significant clue, asserting that Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian and Ukrainian political consultant, had shared sensitive campaign and polling information with Russian intelligence services.

Kilimnik has long been alleged by U.S. officials to have ties to Russian intelligence. But the statement in a broader Treasury Department sanctions announcement was the first time the U.S. government had so directly drawn a connection from the Trump campaign to the Kremlin’s intelligence services. The revelation was all the more startling because it went beyond any allegation made in either special counsel Robert Mueller’s 2019 report or in an even more damning and detailed document released last year by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Both those investigations were unable to determine what Kilimnik did with the data and whether he shared it further.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...a135e21fce6ebf

[Chicks]

ROFLMAO. Whell's World in a nutshell - crazytown.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

ROFLMAO. Whell's World in a nutshell - crazytown.

It's only crazy town if, like you, you ignore the facts...or you want to continue to base your worldview on the crap that emanated from the Clinton campaign about this. If you do, that's your problem not mine.

Or, maybe you have a lead on the whereabouts of the "pee-pee video"?

[RickeyM]

Donny and his little band of traitors are touting the Durham report as exonerating him. How long before his following here start repeating that nonsense?

[donquixote99]

Did you ever notice how dogs love to bark and bark at each other as long as there's a fence between them, and they will even excitedly look forward to opportunities to do this? On the other hand if the gate is open they will generally stop barking, cautiously sniff each other, and deal with each other respectfully. Being online for people is like having a fence for dogs.