The Prez, The Poles, & Polish Americans

[djv8ga]

What a Meathead.
http://news.yahoo.com/president-obam...-politics.html

[piece-itpete]

It's not that big of a mistake in reality I think but perception sure matters. Our CinC should know that. The Poles are staunch allies of the US.

Pete

[d-ray657]

So they are upset about the use of less than precise language in the process of honoring a Polish freedom fighter. Whatever happened to actions speak louder than words.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Sorry but with all due respect there were some Polish people complicit in sending Jews to those camps. That came out at the end of WW II and I remember th news reports at the time. That does not mean that all Polish citizens were guilty, but they need to remember history.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Sorry but with all due respect there were some Polish people complicit in sending Jews to those camps. That came out at the end of WW II and I remember th news reports at the time. That does not mean that all Polish citizens were guilty, but they need to remember history.

Indeed. In fact, there were a bunch of Poles in Nazi uniforms defending the shores of Normandy in 1944 as well as on the Eastern front. In all, there were nearly 225,000 Poles in the Wehrmacht (German army). A number of countries have gone to great to gloss over their complicity with the Germans in WWII.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

What a Meathead.
http://news.yahoo.com/president-obam...-politics.html

OMG. Talk about nothing.

Now if he though the death camps were run by Poland that would make him a republican presidential candidate wouldn't it?

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Indeed. In fact, there were a bunch of Poles in Nazi uniforms defending the shores of Normandy in 1944 as well as on the Eastern front. In all, there were nearly 225,000 Poles in the Wehrmacht (German army). A number of countries have gone to great to gloss over their complicity with the Germans in WWII.

Perhaps that, rather than Obama's words, is the real source of discomfort.

Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

There are quislings everywhere, and there were quite a few German Poles before the war. I thought Poland was considered one of the least complicit.

And the millions that didn't collaborate (the ones that executed many many collaborators after the war, at least the collaborators that didn't move (run) to Germany) might, just might not want to painted with the 11 to 17 million people the Nazis killed in those camps.

But to cover a minor Obama slip, the Poles are all Jewkillers? Come now.

Pete

[d-ray657]

Maybe you have a point there, Pete. But the level of overreaction is puzzling, particular when considering the context of the comment. Obama was honoring a hero of the Polish resistance. That's kind of like saying that a preacher is being pornographic when he says that Jesus rode into town on an ass.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

There are quislings everywhere, and there were quite a few German Poles before the war. I thought Poland was considered one of the least complicit.

And the millions that didn't collaborate (the ones that executed many many collaborators after the war, at least the collaborators that didn't move (run) to Germany) might, just might not want to painted with the 11 to 17 million people the Nazis killed in those camps.

But to cover a minor Obama slip, the Poles are all Jewkillers? Come now.

Pete

No one said they all were, the camps were located in Poland, an easy enough slip to make.