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10-30-2017, 11:29 AM
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Fake news is as fake news does.
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You tell 'em, Forrest.
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10-30-2017, 11:44 AM
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Typo. 201 6, at least. But it’s just beginning, and the other news (guilty plea) is possibly even more significant, with direct ties to this corrupt administration.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...nt-clinton-the
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But the special prosector accused Manafort of trying to hide payments associated with his work in Ukraine from around 2006 to 2016, undercutting Trump's claim the charges stemmed from actions that only occurred "years ago."
Many believe Mueller could use the charges to try and pry information from Manafort about whether the campaign colluded with Russia to meddle in the 2016 election.
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10-30-2017, 11:59 AM
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Any prosecutor could indict this guy. Manafort has a shitty history going beyond the Angolan civil war. He had his hands in many different pockets.
Manafort dressed up mad dog Jonas Savimbi to hustle the US and was well paid.
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10-30-2017, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Sorry to disappoint, oh arrogant one.
Just a little dose of reality:
The charges do not cover any activities related to the campaign, though it's possible Mueller could add additional charges.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politi...der/index.html
These charges go back to 2012, prior to Manafort's association with the Trump campaign. So, still looking for the "collusion".
Now, please return to your celebrations.
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From the indictment:
Between in or around 2008 and 2017, both dates being approximate and inclusive, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, MANAFORT and GATES devised and intended to devise, and executed and attempted to execute, a scheme and artifice to defraud, and to obtain money and property by means of false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises from the United States, banks, and other financial institutions.
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10-30-2017, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Any prosecutor could indict this guy. Manafort has a shitty history going beyond the Angolan civil war. He had his hands in many different pockets.
Manafort dressed up mad dog Jonas Savimbi to hustle the US and was well paid.
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And yet Donny chose this sleazeball to head up his flailing campaign, when it looked like cooler heads would lead a revolt against Donny at the Repube convention. Donny knew full well Manafort had ties to the Russians, and was utterly corrupt, but also knew he could get the job done, by any means necessary.
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10-30-2017, 12:08 PM
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From the indictment:
Between in or around 2008 and 2017, both dates being approximate and inclusive, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, MANAFORT and GATES devised and intended to devise, and executed and attempted to execute, a scheme and artifice to defraud, and to obtain money and property by means of false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises from the United States, banks, and other financial institutions.
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Ah, so 2017 it is. Stories this morning have had 2016 and 2017, but it’s officially 2017. Donny, you’re lying again (and only idiots like Whell believe you).
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10-30-2017, 12:14 PM
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Doesn't address my point, does it? Moron.
EDIT - any by the way, Papadapolous was doing the EXACT same thing Hillary and Company were doing: trying to get dirt on the political opposition from the Russians. Papadapolous may have made the fatal mistake of not being honest about when he was doing it.
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Last time I checked, Steele was British.
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10-30-2017, 12:16 PM
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Daily Press spin with the witch, wench, Sarah whoever on in a minute.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/L...t-12317307.php
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10-30-2017, 12:24 PM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by nailer
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Damn! A brownstone in Brooklyn's ordinary Carroll Gardens cost that much...$3 mil.
What the hell they did to Carroll Gardens?
Time to cut off the Oligarchs' inflow. I do not believe Dems or the Repubs want to seriously address that issue.
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10-30-2017, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
From the indictment:
Between in or around 2008 and 2017, both dates being approximate and inclusive, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, MANAFORT and GATES devised and intended to devise, and executed and attempted to execute, a scheme and artifice to defraud, and to obtain money and property by means of false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises from the United States, banks, and other financial institutions.
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Right, so what does that have to do with Trump campaign collusion with the Russians? Nothing?
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