Shooting in Las Vegas

[Rajoo]

On Guns, Nevada’s Leaders Are Overruling Their Voters

Residents of Nevada voted in November to require background checks for most private gun sales, closing a loophole in federal law. But nearly a year after the ballot measure passed, these checks aren’t being made because state officials have claimed, with little evidence, that there’s no way to carry out the policy.

After Gov. Brian Sandoval, a Republican, vetoed legislation to tighten background checks in Nevada in 2013, public interest groups like Everytown for Gun Safety took the matter directly to the state’s voters in November through a ballot initiative known as Question 1. The N.R.A. spent millions of dollars to defeat the proposal; its “no” campaign had the support of the state’s attorney general, Adam Laxalt, and many sheriffs. Yet, a narrow majority of people voted for Question 1, which had the support of police unions, health groups and others.

It has become a maddening ritual to watch members of Congress offer thoughts and prayers after mass shootings without doing anything to prevent gun violence. When voters become so frustrated by federal and state lawmakers’ inaction that they take matters into their own hands, officials beholden to the gun lobby cannot be allowed to block them.

Guess what, Paul Ryan is one of the largest beneficiaries of the gun lobby. so don't expect any legislation to come up soon other than legalizing silencers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/o...ol-left-region

[Chicks]

Residents of Nevada voted in November to require background checks for most private gun sales, closing a loophole in federal law. But nearly a year after the ballot measure passed, these checks aren’t being made because state officials have claimed, with little evidence, that there’s no way to carry out the policy.

I was the system architect for a front-end system we built for CA's CFIS background check system, back in the late '90s. Even back then, it was fully possible, if not via the computers we provided to the 20% of dealers who did 80% of sales, then via phone to our call center. Gun shows weren't an issue, background checks were done for those, too, with the mandatory 10-day waiting period. CA DOJ has since modernized the system.

Criminals went to NV to get their guns, due to exactly the attitude described in the article.

[Chicks]

Rosanne Cash: Country Musicians, Stand Up to the N.R.A.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/o...cians-nra.html

[Ike Bana]

Some would suggest that there was not enough difference between Trump and Clinton to support a vote for the only candidate with a chance to keep Donald Trump away from having any control over the government of this country. WTF???

Look, we have a tragedy. What happened is, in many ways, a miracle,” Trump said as he departed the White House for a trip to Puerto Rico on Tuesday morning. “The police department, they’ve done such an incredible job. And we’ll be talking about gun laws as time goes on.

- WAPO

So, it appears the 2nd Amendment slaughter in Las Vegas is a tragedy and a miracle. Who but a person no less a sick fuck than Steven Paddock would say something like this. Steven Paddock killed 58 people in Las Vegas. What will Trump's final body count be in Puerto Rico? We shall see, as power, water, and food has yet to reach thousands on the island.

[Pio1980]

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.p...#post-10909902

[Dondilion]

[QUOTE=Ike Bana;362116]Some would suggest that there was not enough difference between Trump and Clinton to support a vote for the only candidate with a chance to keep Donald Trump away from having any control over the government of this country. WTF???

If the Democratic party could not offer a better candidate than Hillary, then Trump deserves to win.

Funny thing, early, Trump was facilitated by the same press which is now holy, because -- it viewed him as a push over.

[Pio1980]

When a "right" becomes a liability without a real purpose, it's past time for a re-evaluation of what and why.

[Rajoo]

[QUOTE=Dondilion;362150]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Some would suggest that there was not enough difference between Trump and Clinton to support a vote for the only candidate with a chance to keep Donald Trump away from having any control over the government of this country. WTF???

If the Democratic party could not offer a better candidate than Hillary, then Trump deserves to win.

Funny thing, early, Trump was facilitated by the same press which is now holy, because -- it viewed him as a push over.

Agreed. The DNC put up the only candidate that Trump could beat.

[donquixote99]

[QUOTE=Dondilion;362150]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Some would suggest that there was not enough difference between Trump and Clinton to support a vote for the only candidate with a chance to keep Donald Trump away from having any control over the government of this country. WTF???

If the Democratic party could not offer a better candidate than Hillary, then Trump deserves to win.

Funny thing, early, Trump was facilitated by the same press which is now holy, because -- it viewed him as a push over.

That is like saying 'If you can't come up with a better supper than liver and onions, you deserve to eat shit.'

[Dondilion]

[QUOTE=donquixote99;362153]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

That is like saying 'If you can't come up with a better supper than liver and onions, you deserve to eat shit.'

Hillary is no "liver and onions".