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12-11-2014, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
CIA wasn't off the reservation but following orders. From the top.
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Speaking of the top, here's what he has to say about it.
http://news.yahoo.com/former-vice-pr...opstories.html
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Former Vice President Dick Cheney says a declassified Senate report on the controversial post-9/11 CIA interrogation program is "full of crap."
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"I think it is a terrible report, deeply flawed," Cheney said on Fox News, his first televised interview since the report's release. "It's a classic example of where politicians get together and throw professionals under the bus
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12-12-2014, 10:49 AM
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Most of the people I've talked to who favored torture by the Government. All said basically the same thing, who cares if we got good intel. They were terrorists and should be killed!
I take it to be they were wanting easy payback, more about retribution and satisfying a sense of getting even. Then getting information, a sick sadistic emotion. Nothing about justice for if this were true there would of been trials on TV by now.
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12-12-2014, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Most of the people I've talked to who favored torture by the Government. All said basically the same thing, who cares if we got good intel. They were terrorists and should be killed!
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I wonder what they'd say if their sons or daughters were tortured by the Taliban or Iraqi insurgents, particularly if the bad guys tried to justify it to the world by saying it was OK because they got "actionable intelligence."
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12-12-2014, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I wonder what they'd say if their sons or daughters were tortured by the Taliban or Iraqi insurgents, particularly if the bad guys tried to justify it to the world by saying it was OK because they got "actionable intelligence."
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I suspect they would say the same as McCain is saying. I don't share McCain's political views, but about thirty years ago I read his book about being a pow and it seems that he would know more about this than most other politicians.
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12-12-2014, 12:14 PM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oerets
CIA wasn't off the reservation but following orders. From the top.
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I was talking about the CIA spying on them.
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
It's simple. We were either the good guys or we weren't. We're either the good guys now, or we're not.
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I don't think you'll find such absolutes in life.
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12-12-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I was talking about the CIA spying on them.
I don't think you'll find such absolutes in life.
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Not just spying on our elected officials anymore either!
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12-12-2014, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I was talking about the CIA spying on them.
I don't think you'll find such absolutes in life.
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Whos looking? Fact remains if we're perping torture on detainees, or anybody else, we forfeit our habit of lecturing other countries on their behavior...or invading them when they're disinterested in following our instructions.
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12-12-2014, 04:16 PM
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We killed a few of them, so there isn't much reason for getting bent when they behead a few Americans.
Once you start down the torture path, there is no safe haven. There are no brakes on the jalopy.
And the sad part is we gained no measurable advantage by doing it...McCain would know.
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12-12-2014, 05:07 PM
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The Republicans tortured.
Never forget it.
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12-12-2014, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
The Republicans tortured.
Never forget it.
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I guess I don't really have any room to complain.
If I were dictator I'd have some Republicans tortured.
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