Europe is at War

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I don't waste my time reflecting on the neurotic spewing of stalkers.

It wasn't my "spewing", Alan, but if you feel that way, why not put me on ignore?

[HarmanKardon]

Does this serious topic deserve an argument that is actually not necessary?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I didnt say anything of the fucking sort about the size of the organization responsible. Don't make shit up.

I don't "make shit up", but I did read your post. You referred to today's attack being executed by "homegrown terrorists". This would preclude coordination by, for example, ISIS, who is now claiming responsibility.

I simply wondered where you got the information that prompted you to label the attackers as "homegrown terrorists".

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

These guys were born in the EU. WTF does homegrown mean to you?

It apparently means something different to you than it does the rest of the world. Let me help you out.

A homegrown terrorist would be someone like a Tim Mcveigh: self radicalized, possibly partnered with individuals who are also self-radicalized or at least share a common set of (screwed up) ideals, but do not claim influence from an external source. McVeigh's place of birth would not necessarily be relevant. For example, he could have been born in Canada and later came to the United States, but he was not under the influence, recruited by or supported by a foreign element, state or group.

If ISIS is involved in the planning or execution of the attacks, and/or involved in recruiting or sponsoring the activities of the Belgian attackers, then they would not be "homegrown". Richard Colvin Reid was born in England, but radicalized and trained and supported by Al Qaeda when he tried to blow up a plane with a bomb in his shoe. He's not "homegrown".

[Tom Joad]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...z50rsrj8vbzkt9

Belgium was left reeling on Tuesday after two attacks targeting the airport and a subway station in the capital killed at least 34 people and left nearly 200 wounded. In a message distributed via the news agency Amaq, the self-described Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attacks.

Meanwhile, over 3,000 people will die toady in roadway crashes and nobody gives a shit.

http://asirt.org/initiatives/informi...ash-statistics

Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day.

[Pio1980]

So, if McVeigh's philosophical inspiration originated with a Brit or Canadian fringe radical Christian, he wouldn't be "home-grown"?

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[Pio1980]

Btw, Belgium has the most lax arms regulation in Europe, you go there to get any amount of almost anything you want.

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[whell]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...z50rsrj8vbzkt9

Meanwhile, over 3,000 people will die toady in roadway crashes and nobody gives a shit.

http://asirt.org/initiatives/informi...ash-statistics

So, Tom is trying to equate an act of war - at minimum a planned act of extreme violence in a single day - with accidental deaths spread out over the course of the year?

Hmmm...giving Ike some competition for the award most idiotic post in this thread?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

So, if McVeigh's philosophical inspiration originated with a Brit or Canadian fringe radical Christian, he wouldn't be "home-grown"?

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If he was aided / supported by an external organization or gov't, the wouldn't fit the definition of domestic or "homegrown" terrorist.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Btw, Belgium has the most lax arms regulation in Europe, you go there to get any amount of almost anything you want.

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Not sure what that means in the context of this discussion. Also, Belgium isn't particularly plagued by gun violence, today's events not withstanding.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...-100-residents