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11-24-2009, 03:13 PM
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Hydro Quebec & Ontario Hydro are run by their respective provinces? Like their health care? Hmmmmm.
When I was a BG&E customer, up until 10 years ago, power outages were rare and when they occurred, they were addressed quickly.
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Yep, both owned and operated by the provincial governments, as a side not if it was not for Hydro Quebec's efficiency large parts of the northeast would be freezing in the dark.
BG&E has now become the the worst defacer of trees, well ahead of hurricanes and ice storms. Constellation nergy (not what I call them) got a 72% increase last year and recently sold off its nuclear plant to the French. Funny thing is the French government will not allow foreign firms to buy up French companies.
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11-24-2009, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Constellation nergy (not what I call them) got a 72% increase last year and recently sold off its nuclear plant to the French. Funny thing is the French government will not allow foreign firms to buy up French companies.
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Yeah, after your earlier post I looked up Constellation Energy. I saw that about the French firm buying around 50% of Constellation's stock & assets. Crazy! Not only is critical infrastructure in private hands. It's in foreign hands! Indiana sold the Indiana Toll Road to a Spanish/Australian consortium too.
Freakin' nuts!
John
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11-24-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Yeah, after your earlier post I looked up Constellation Energy. I saw that about the French firm buying around 50% of Constellation's stock & assets. Crazy! Not only is critical infrastructure in private hands. It's in foreign hands! Indiana sold the Indiana Toll Road to a Spanish/Australian consortium too.
Freakin' nuts!
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I have to thank the green emphasis for my current circumstances - which energy-wise have improved significantly. We had put off and put off replacing our 30+ year old furnace and AC, until the furnace belched and caught the basement on fire a couple of years ago. We bought a heat pump and a two-stage gas furnace. As an incentive to buy the heat pump, the electric Co. gives us a 50% discount on the electric rate from October through May (as long as we own the home). We also use much less gas, because the gas heat doesn't kick in until the air temp is too low for the heat pump to work - about 35 degrees. We also use a gas stove, which is considerably more energy efficient than an electric stove. It took a little while to see the difference, since we are on average pay, but now our bills are down by over 40% and both utilities owe us money on our average pay plan. It feels good to take a little bit of advantage of the utilities, but I'm sure they get tax credits for the rebate program.
Regards,
D-Ray
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11-24-2009, 02:36 PM
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I'm not sure what you're saying. See, utilities operate for profit and so should be allowed to run their business as they see fit. Capitalism unfetterd and pure. If allowed to do this they will always "self regulate" and operate in the best interest of their customers, especially if they are a monopoly. I know this is true because Reagan said so.
You seem to be implying that some other authority should exist to look out for the needs of citizens and regulate industry to make sure they aren't taking advantage of their customers.
Socialist.
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11-24-2009, 02:50 PM
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You seem to be implying that some other authority should exist to look out for the needs of citizens and regulate industry to make sure they aren't taking advantage of their customers.
Socialist.
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Why, that's just crazy!
John
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11-24-2009, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie
I'm not sure what you're saying. See, utilities operate for profit and so should be allowed to run their business as they see fit. Capitalism unfetterd and pure. If allowed to do this they will always "self regulate" and operate in the best interest of their customers, especially if they are a monopoly. I know this is true because Reagan said so.
You seem to be implying that some other authority should exist to look out for the needs of citizens and regulate industry to make sure they aren't taking advantage of their customers.
Socialist.
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lmao, great post.
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11-25-2009, 07:47 AM
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Odd, our Trane 1400 still extracts heat from 22 degree outdoor temps. It is a high efficiency unit about twice as big as the average 3-ton unit while still only having a 3-ton rating. Has a scroll type compressor too, really quiet.
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