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02-17-2011, 08:27 PM
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or maybe they'll start shooting back
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02-17-2011, 08:56 PM
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or maybe they'll start shooting back
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Really? How about you and me meeting up and working this out?
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02-18-2011, 05:45 AM
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Really? How about you and me meeting up and working this out?
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I have had it with the imbeciles.
Your post is exactly part of the problem. Do you realize even your owners laugh at you?
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02-18-2011, 10:00 AM
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I guess it's the norm for Pussy Dem's.
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What a bunch of Pussys! Dem's are such cowards...as we all know.
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How about you and me meeting up and working this out?
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You make a compelling argument. Very well thought out and logical.
But, really, is this any different than the Republicans in Washington using the Filibuster a record number of times to defeat legislation supported by the majority party? I guess it is different in one way- there are tens of thousands of citizens demanding this be stopped outside their window, rather than a few lobbyists in a hotel suite.
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02-18-2011, 10:04 AM
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You make a compelling argument. Very well thought out and logical.
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Subtlety has always been one of his strong points.
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02-18-2011, 10:34 AM
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But, really, is this any different than the Republicans in Washington using the Filibuster a record number of times to defeat legislation supported by the majority party?
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It sure as hell is. The Republicans actually had to report to work to Fillibuster. They didn't hold up in resort and pout.
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02-18-2011, 10:53 AM
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It sure as hell is. The Republicans actually had to report to work to Fillibuster. They didn't hold up in resort and pout.
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Neither are these guys. The "resort" guy was on a radio show I listen to this morning. He ain't in a resort. I know this is hard to believe, but the Republicans have been a little misleading in an effort to make their opponents (who, apparently, are working men and women) look bad.
It would be kind of like saying these Republicans are just trying to break Unions and are using a financial crisis, that they intentionally exacerbated, as an excuse to do so… wait. No, it wouldn’t be like that at all. That’s exactly what they’re doing.
It’s just kind of amazing to me. “The People” elected a President who said he would reform health care. When he actually did, and the Republicans opposed him, they were doing a great job. But when the people oppose a Draconian measure, forwarded under false and misleading pretense, with tens of thousands marching in the street in their support, they’re somehow subverting the will of the people.
I should add- I have no love for the Teacher's Union. But this isn't the way to deal with it.
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02-18-2011, 11:28 AM
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Neither are these guys. The "resort" guy was on a radio show I listen to this morning. He ain't in a resort. I know this is hard to believe, but the Republicans have been a little misleading in an effort to make their opponents (who, apparently, are working men and women) look bad.
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Well, I'll stick with the "resort" thing, unless you can get the Wisconsin papers to retract their story. In fact, it really looks like quite a nice place.
http://www.clocktowerresort.com/
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It would be kind of like saying these Republicans are just trying to break Unions and are using a financial crisis, that they intentionally exacerbated, as an excuse to do so… wait. No, it wouldn’t be like that at all. That’s exactly what they’re doing.
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BS, BS, BS. And just so we're clear: BS! That's the story line that the unions and their lap dogs want to put forth. If we're to subscribe to that logic, then it would NEVER be OK to impact the pay or benefits of most any civil servant, cuz that would be union busting.
I just love the spin. Our masters of smart in federal and state government spend all the money in the kitty and max out their "credit cards". Then the public comes along and throws those bums out, and the folks on the left scream that they have no plan, they're full of BS, and predicted failure. Now that the newly elected folks are implementing their plans, the wailing and nashing of teeth and name calling begins.
For any organization, including government, cost of labor is the number one controllable cost. If you're trying to balance the budget, it is the logical place to start looking.
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It’s just kind of amazing to me. “The People” elected a President who said he would reform health care. When he actually did, and the Republicans opposed him, they were doing a great job. But when the people oppose a Draconian measure, forwarded under false and misleading pretense, with tens of thousands marching in the street in their support, they’re somehow subverting the will of the people.
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I should add- I have no love for the Teacher's Union. But this isn't the way to deal with it.
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OK, I'm game. How do you propose to reduce government's payroll costs so that they are more in line with the government sector, and/or reduced accordingly when the state's population decreases?
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02-18-2011, 11:38 AM
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"BS, BS, BS. And just so we're clear: BS! That's the story line that the unions and their lap dogs want to put forth. If we're to subscribe to that logic, then it would NEVER be OK to impact the pay or benefits of most any civil servant, cuz that would be union busting."
No, that's precisely what it is, and has been for a long time. This is just the beginning, there will be more.
Orwell was right----------"Slavery is Freedom", or in todays context;
"A workforce with no voice is a happy workforce. And you will agree or you will end up blackballed and homeless."
Welcome to the New World Order.
Dave
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02-18-2011, 11:49 AM
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OK, I'm game. How do you propose to reduce government's payroll costs so that they are more in line with the government sector, and/or reduced accordingly when the state's population decreases?
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If the population decreases then the government workforce will naturally decrease, n'est ce pas? What normally happends to any business that loses customers, unfortunate but normal.
So where has WI been pissing waway all this money that they got so far in the hole?
Funny thing is that Maryland is managing quite well thak you very much, but then we don't have a union busting governor.
At least you GOOPers are consistent in following Saint Ronnie's "let's bust the unions and kill off the middle class" ideas.
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