Current destabilization of society in the USA.

[BigElCat]

I was referencing what I already said..

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The BLM movement is not helping me transcend any racist ideation I may have. Look at the 'triggers' for the riots, going back to Rodney King. They've all been spark by some Black dude breaking the law and resisting arrest. Even the shooting at the Atlanta Wendy's looks justified to me.

Using the cop's taser against the cop, it could have easily put his life in jeopardy. If the taser had caught him, the dude could have doubled back in a split second and taken the cop's Glock.

I guess they could have let him run away, and tried to locate him later. This incident was not nearly as unjustified as the 2017 Minneapolis killing of that Australian woman.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...%20her%20house.

Here's a look at Rayshard Brook's take down...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rayshard-...120347050.html

[Chicks]

What's antifa? Journalist Talia Lavin on the reality behind the media's "pernicious lies"
Confused about antifa? So is everyone. "Anti-fascists have a purpose," says Talia Lavin. "It's in the f**king name"

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/15/wha...rnicious-lies/

So no, it's beyond ridiculous to blame antifa for fanning the flames. They are fighting fascism, plain and simple. Sadly, we have fascists in power right now, all the way up to the Oval Office.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Chicks

What's antifa? Journalist Talia Lavin on the reality behind the media's "pernicious lies"
Confused about antifa? So is everyone. "Anti-fascists have a purpose," says Talia Lavin. "It's in the f**king name"

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/15/wha...rnicious-lies/

So no, it's beyond ridiculous to blame antifa for fanning the flames. They are fighting fascism, plain and simple. Sadly, we have fascists in power right now, all the way up to the Oval Office.

What's so comedic about antifa is that it's name is like calling Nazi's "antina".

They ARE the fascists. Look at their tactics, just for starters. Judge a tree by its fruit.

[RickeyM]

Those fascists in power would declare anyone who opposed them to be enemies of the republic. I think what has them stymied is the across all races support for the BLM movement and support for ending police brutality.
Current destabilization of society in the USA? I see it as the destabilization of the status quo.

[BigElCat]

My post was also influenced by this...

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Those fascists in power would declare anyone who opposed them to be enemies of the republic. I think what has them stymied is the across all races support for the BLM movement and support for ending police brutality.
Current destabilization of society in the USA? I see it as the destabilization of the status quo.

I'm just questioning your pro-protest stance. I'm certainly not in favor of law enforcement using unnecessary force, or killing people during an arrest.

I've been cuffed and stuffed about five times, twice it was because the small town cops were bored, and they wanted to roll a drunk for their own gratification.

If I would have fought back, they would have used whatever force they deemed necessary. It's more about ego and power tripping, at least in my case. Don't think white privilege had much to do with it. I'm white, every cop that that ever cuffed me was white.

I've never felt the need to protest against police brutality / authority. My trouble with the law went away when I quit drinking.

Unaffordable medical care...that's what I'll protest against.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

My post was also influenced by this...

I'm just questioning your pro-protest stance. I'm certainly not in favor of law enforcement using unnecessary force, or killing people during an arrest.

I've been cuffed and stuffed about five times, twice it was because the small town cops were bored, and they wanted to roll a drunk for their own gratification.

If I would have fought back, they would have used whatever force they deemed necessary. It's more about ego and power tripping, at least in my case. Don't think white privilege had much to do with it. I'm white, every cop that that ever cuffed me was white.

I've never felt the need to protest against police brutality / authority. My trouble with the law went away when I quit drinking.

Unaffordable medical care...that's what I'll protest against.

You share my son's attitude. And mine, though I've only been arrested and cuffed once, and it was very pleasant other than I didn't like being cuffed. That was in 1977 for having some marijuana on me.

Normally, this sort of thing is a problem of the young. As we mature we naturally reduce the need for this sort of contact with police. And yeah. It's not about race. It's about actions.

With age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

I'm just questioning your pro-protest stance. I'm certainly not in favor of law enforcement using unnecessary force, or killing people during an arrest.

If I would have fought back, they would have used whatever force they deemed necessary.

I've never felt the need to protest against police brutality / authority. My trouble with the law went away when I quit drinking.

Unaffordable medical care...that's what I'll protest against.

I'm all for protest, it's the American way. I have no use for rioting and looting.

Agreeing that fighting arrest is just not a smart thing to do but using unnecessary force is the problem. In the case of George Floyd he was under control and subdued yet the officer's knee was kept on his neck even after he lost consciousness. In the case of Freddy Gray he was bound up with his arms and legs behind his back with an officers knee on his neck and (from the police report) he didn't resist at all.

Your trouble with the law went away when you quit drinking. How does one quit their skin color?

We screwed up in this country when medical care became a for profit deal.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

I'm all for protest, it's the American way. I have no use for rioting and looting.

Agreeing that fighting arrest is just not a smart thing to do but using unnecessary force is the problem. In the case of George Floyd he was under control and subdued yet the officer's knee was kept on his neck even after he lost consciousness. In the case of Freddy Gray he was bound up with his arms and legs behind his back with an officers knee on his neck and (from the police report) he didn't resist at all.

Your trouble with the law went away when you quit drinking. How does one quit their skin color?

We screwed up in this country when medical care became a for profit deal.

How do you know the way they treated George was because of his race and not because of his actions?

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

We screwed up in this country when medical care became a for profit deal.

QFT. I'm forever sticking with not-for-profit Kaiser, which is, I believe, the only institution to consistently get Medicare's highest rating, year after year.

Unlike some mentally deficient folks, I won't be relying on prayer, lol.

The idea that medical providers and insurance companies should sell common stock is appalling to me. All should be nonprofit.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

We screwed up in this country when medical care became a for profit deal.

Pretty sure medical care has always been a for profit deal in these United States.