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09-27-2023, 08:26 AM
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This is not an immigration problem, it's a humanity problem. Mankind is not the human race, mankind is the missing like between apes and humans.
People who live in places where those in control don't give a shit if the people are starving, and will just murder them if they complain, are not going to stop trying to get into North America and Western Europe. Mankind's inhumanity to it's own will always be generating more misery, suffering, and attempts to escape it than any tough immigration laws anywhere can discourage.
And it's not so much better here in the good old USA. We typically don't face death by government, unless we have an inconvenient level of melanin in our epidermis. But we live in a country where the mega wealthy, in cahoots with all three branches of the government have, beginning in the early 1970's, queered the game to favor big business, big banks, big insurance, and big healthcare, to the extent that GenX, Millenials, GenY, and Gen Z are destined to not do as well as their parents and grandparents before them. It's still better here than anywhere else (with the exception of western Europe), but certainly not bad enough for most Americans to actually decide to get out and go somewhere better.
And it's pretty difficult, if not impossible, to go somewhere better unless you have enough money to swing it...and if you have enough money to swing it, you're probably OK staying put in what is quickly becoming a shithole. The blonde and I could do it, and we have dual Irish citizenship, so we could go live anywhere in the EU. But every time we sit down and try to figure out what it would cost, it always comes up to more than 100 large. Not to mention that we're both pushing 80 and having the endurance to do it comes into question. And then there's the exit tax on any unrealized capital gains at 23.8% for those of us who would revoke our citizenship to get out from under US federal income taxes. Motherfuckers.
Sweden, Demark, or Ireland (where she has tons of family) would be our choises.
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09-23-2023, 07:40 PM
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There are endless ideas for making our immigration system work better. Anyone here is sure to have some. They are worthless because no one is asking us to solve the problems. The real problem we have is how can we get a more functional legislative branch?
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09-23-2023, 07:48 PM
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There are endless ideas for making our immigration system work better. Anyone here is sure to have some. They are worthless because no one is asking us to solve the problems. The real problem we have is how can we get a more functional legislative branch?
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Abolish gerrymandering, but not sure if this can be accomplished. If not we will have to make do with what we have.
Repeal Citizens United.........now I am dreaming. In a couple of elections, the Senate will become The Billionaires Club.
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09-24-2023, 06:28 AM
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There are endless ideas for making our immigration system work better. Anyone here is sure to have some. They are worthless because no one is asking us to solve the problems. The real problem we have is how can we get a more functional legislative branch?
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The cult has a plan for a more functional government. One with no descent or discussion. Will it be fair and have the majority wishes as a concern? Rather think not. Functional it will be thou.
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09-24-2023, 09:08 AM
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Functional in terms of right values. A highly effective way to destroy the planet as fast as possible, for example, is not what I'd call functional.
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09-24-2023, 10:14 AM
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Functional in terms of right values. A highly effective way to destroy the planet as fast as possible, for example, is not what I'd call functional.
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Functional in once in control this cult will use whatever means necessary to obtain the world they envision. Unchecked with nothing to stop them will overreach with little thoughts of anyone else.
Other then a burden.
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09-24-2023, 11:14 AM
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Functional in once in control this cult will use whatever means necessary to obtain the world they envision. Unchecked with nothing to stop them will overreach with little thoughts of anyone else.
Other then a burden.
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The vision is so dysfunctional they will destroy themselves with strategic errors, like the Nazis. But they could take down the world with them. Much much better to derail the whole thing before it gains such power.
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09-24-2023, 12:18 PM
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The vision is so dysfunctional they will destroy themselves with strategic errors, like the Nazis. But they could take down the world with them. Much much better to derail the whole thing before it gains such power.
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Have hope that stopping this cult will happen. Yet remember we are still fighting our last Civil War in this country. This cult will be around for many years to come and will be persistence. Look now further then Abortion and the years of fighting to get their way.
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09-25-2023, 07:33 AM
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The members of the GOP House caucus who actually deserve our scorn are not the 45 members of the "Freedom Caucus", but the other 122 Republicans who are going along with it due to their sniveling primary loss avoidance disorder.
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09-27-2023, 06:12 PM
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Yes, this is a MAGA fueled shut down ordered by the Moron who is hoping to create chaos while sabotaging Biden's presidency during a fragile economic recovery. Should not be lost on us that the Saudi's reduced oil output further to help with the Moron's cause.
Ukraine and southern border are simply convenient excuses to increase the MAGAts ire.
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