School shootings on the rise

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Sophistry. What you're saying is that if everyone owned a gun, there would be no crime. That's an absurd notion.

On the other hand, you can't make the argument that making the individual possession of unregistered, unlicensed guns makes it impossible for individuals to obtain an unregistered, unlicensed gun.

That's pretty much exactly what Wayne LaPierre says every time he makes a speech, including yesterday.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by whell

Sophistry. What you're saying is that if everyone owned a gun, there would be no crime. That's an absurd notion.

Exactly my point! More guns will not make anyone safer.

Originally Posted by whell

On the other hand, you can't make the argument that making the individual possession of unregistered, unlicensed guns makes it impossible for individuals to obtain an unregistered, unlicensed gun.

If I was king everybody passing a mental and background check then doing all registration licensing testing to an all 50 state federal level of any and all transaction would be able to own a weapon. No assault type at all and with limited to mags of not over seven rounds.


Barney

[whell]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Exactly my point! More guns will not make anyone safer.

Barney

And guns control laws dont make anyone safer either. One of the most, if not the most, murder-happy places in the world is Caracas, Venezuela. Venezuela doesn't allow sales of guns or ammo. Mexico has strict gun laws. But guns are smuggled in from the U.S. to help arm those who participate in the drug trade. Sadly, Acapulco has one of the highest murder rates in the world. Closer to home, Baltimore's high murder rate - one of the highest in the nation - is seemingly in spite of Maryland having stticter gun laws than most states.

Schools are targets NOW. To suggest we experiment with more gun control laws to make them safer is folly.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

And guns control laws dont make anyone safer either...

Bullshit and you know it. Look at industrialized democracies like the UK and Australia who have implemented stricter gun controls after mass shootings. You're an idiot.

[Pio1980]

Making ammo accountable may be an approach, taxing and registration has been proposed.

[finnbow]

Magazine capacity of 5 rounds would be a start. You can't have more than three rounds in your shotgun when hunting game birds (and they're flying). If you can't hit a threatening assailant with five rounds, you have no business owning or discharging a firearm in the first place. Hell, I've gotten to the point that I don't deer hunt with a modern firearm at all. If using a firearm to deer hunt at all, I use a muzzleloader - the kind the Founding Fathers were addressing in the Second Amendment. I like the idea of one well-placed shot, as opposed to the spray-and-pray ethos of those who hunt with autoloaders.

[Pio1980]

Guns and Wall Street — a match made in heaven?
http://p.dw.com/p/2tFW9

[Rajoo]

Fashion house Gucci gave $500K to the Gun control march.
And the NRA is making it even harder on the GOP to pass any legislation.
Hertz and Avis is ending their relationship with NRA.

[Oerets]

Missed the point completely.....
Not surprised in the least.

Dude it is the shooting of the innocents. What or where it happens who cares? It needs to stop! Splitting hairs is only a distraction by one without an argument.


Play the deflect, change subject all you want. Facts don't change, guns are being used to kill with little to stop because of all the money paid to politicians for their silence.


Barney

[Oerets]

Lets give gun control a try then.
Doing nothing seems to be not working out!

You leave a weapon out with kids around at home? It all about taking responsibility....


Barney