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01-18-2016, 09:19 AM
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www.youtube.com/v/ipe6CMvW0Dg
An excellent video -- I would say more,but the vid goes where words cant!
Exposing the truth about our world...... Its sad people cannot see the cage they are in,its really very sad....
The people who are happy and think everything is good in todays world are TOTALLY IN CONTROL and have no use of thier own minds.... They cant see the so called 'REALITY' as its all been forced "Programmed" in thier minds..... (A lie)
I feel bad for them.....
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01-18-2016, 10:15 AM
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We are their most powerful resource until AI is perfected, then the genocides will begin. Then they won't need us any more.
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01-18-2016, 01:54 PM
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We are their most powerful resource until AI is perfected, then the genocides will begin. Then they won't need us any more.
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AI is a joke - I will believe it when someone can give a computer a soul.
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01-18-2016, 02:03 PM
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AI is a joke - I will believe it when someone can give a computer a soul.
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What's a soul? If we can imagine its existence, why can't a self-aware machine do the same?
The trick, of course, is the creation of that self-aware machine.
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01-19-2016, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
What's a soul? If we can imagine its existence, why can't a self-aware machine do the same?
The trick, of course, is the creation of that self-aware machine.
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Having worked with them since 1963 all they are are high speed electronic idiots, no better or smarter than the person programming them.
Dr. Wilder Penfield proved its existence many years back,
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01-19-2016, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Having worked with them since 1963 all they are are high speed electronic idiots, no better or smarter than the person programming them.
Dr. Wilder Penfield proved its existence many years back,
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Well, at least they have speed over the average human.....
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01-19-2016, 10:48 AM
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Having worked with them since 1963 all they are are high speed electronic idiots, no better or smarter than the person programming them.
Dr. Wilder Penfield proved its existence many years back,
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What they are (or were) isn't what they will be.
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01-19-2016, 12:04 PM
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Having worked with them since 1963 all they are are high speed electronic idiots, no better or smarter than the person programming them.
Dr. Wilder Penfield proved its existence many years back,
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Looked up the Penfield ideas. What he 'proved' is that the 'conscious will' feels itself to be separate from the neuromotor control function of the brain under certain conditions. Beyond this 'seperateness,' however, he showed nothing about the source and operating characteristics of the conscious will. One can as easily assume it to be a separately functioning module in our fleshy computer, as assume it to be a supernatural soul.
It can be obvious to anyone from self-observation that neuromotor control and consciousness are separate. When I move my arm, I don't consciously think, 'contract muscle A .37465 at rate .66582, and then, .33047 seconds later, contract muscle B .11934 at rate .76599, etc, etc. I just create intentions in a general way, and functions separate from and normally not at all accessible to the consciousness take care of the details of calculating appropriate parameters and sending the necessary commands to the muscles. So one does not have to stimulate exposed brains, as Dr. Penfield did, to apprehend this separation of activity.
I also don't think the conscious mind can be the soul because it clearly isn't 'in control' of everything. It frequently is just concerned with inventing 'rational' reasons for things we want to do based on subconscious motivations.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...-and-the-soul/
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01-18-2016, 10:43 AM
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Dude is an avid consumer of videos. They tell him other people are 'in control' due to being mislead by insidious propaganda.
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01-18-2016, 11:00 AM
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dude is an avid consumer of videos. They tell him other people are 'in control' due to being mislead by insidious propaganda.
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[[irony alert!]]
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