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[finnbow]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

But the political messages inherent in conducting a military salute during each game(followed by that pathetic Lee Greenwood song), playing the national anthems a the games, and singing God Bless America at the 7th Inning stretch are all fine and dandy?

Of course. White people are comfortable with gratuitous displays of patriotism, but can't stand "ungrateful" blacks who may see things differently and choose to silently express it. It challenges their beliefs in American Exceptionalism, not to mention their easy-chair patriotism.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Of course. White people are comfortable with gratuitous displays of patriotism, but can't stand "ungrateful" blacks who may see things differently and choose to silently express it. It contradicts their "America is exceptional and perfect" hagiography.

One man's patriotism is another man's jingoism.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

One man's patriotism is another man's jingoism.

One man's observation and respect for tradition or sanctioned events and activities at entertainment events is another man's angst. Pretty sad if you ask me.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

But the political messages inherent in conducting a military salute during each game(followed by that pathetic Lee Greenwood song), playing the national anthems a the games, and singing God Bless America at the 7th Inning stretch are all fine and dandy?

Yup, because those activities have long since become tradition, and have certainly been organized and sanctioned by the league(s) for many, many years. At least at one time, folks used to think stuff like playing the national anthem was OK. Those of you who hate stuff like that - who apparently aren't "Proud to be an American" as Mr Greenwood observes and which you label as pathetic - at least know its coming before you buy your tickets.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

Yup, because those activities have long since become tradition, and have certainly been organized and sanctioned by the league(s) for many, many years. At least at one time, folks used to think stuff like playing the national anthem was OK. Those of you who hate stuff like that - who apparently aren't "Proud to be an American" as Mr Greenwood observes and which you label as pathetic - at least know its coming before you buy your tickets.

For one who opposes others putting words in one's mouth, your are certainly keen on the practice. There is nothing wrong with being proud to be an American. Indeed, being proud of one's country is not inconsistent with wanting to improve it. However, combining a terrible country song with a celebration of militarism is more of a display of jingoism than patriotism.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

For one who opposes others putting words in one's mouth, your are certainly keen on the practice. There is nothing wrong with being proud to be an American. Indeed, being proud of one's country is not inconsistent with wanting to improve it. However, combining a terrible country song with a celebration of militarism is more of a display of jingoism than patriotism.

You're the on who called the Lee Greenwood song "pathetic". And celebrating those who have chosen to serve their country, including those who have gone into harms way and also supported relief efforts after the recent hurricanes, is hardly "militarism". Damn, you've got some pretty cynical ways of looking at the world, don't ya?

[Pio1980]

And the point of the protests is lost in the property rights and patriotic sideshow.

[donquixote99]

Sorry, you have to think the way Whell says to think, and like the songs he says to like, or you will be called sick, sad, cynicial, a heartless bastard, and no end of stuff.

Taste and opinion are grounds for imprisonment in the minds of righties. These are the people who whole-heartedly believe in thoughtcrime.

Authoritarian mind control. Coming soon to a former free country near you!

[Chicks]

Sigh. You just aren't worth the time.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Sigh. You just aren't worth the time.

LOL. You post something that makes no sense, the exasperated at me for pointing it out to you. Typical.