How about a thread about PC

[d-ray657]

I am speaking Political Correctness.

I have a whole lot more questions than answers.

Was Frank Zappa ever politically correct in his life?

How much social approbation does one deserve by using a politically incorrect term in good faith; by using the term "Hispanic" incorrectly; by using the term handicapped instead of disabled; by rooting for (not boycotting) the Chiefs or the Indians; by saying black instead of African American; by giving more weight to being a grandmother than a grandfather; by using the term cracker; by using the term redneck; by using the term teabagger; by not understanding the significance of all of the initials in LGBT?

What are the good and bad points about trying to operate with political correctness?

Regards,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Hell if I know. I guess I like Pollacks and Limeys so Pete's covered. The jury's still out on lawyers. What're are you getting at counselor? <grin>

[icenine]

Not using those terms around other people will usually increase your estimation among people you know. Think about it. The people you respect the most in your life will generally be too sophisticated to use those terms. In my life anyway.

[donquixote99]

Political correctness is sort of weaponized manners. Manners are the start of it--don't be offensive to others. But that value is then mobilized as a weapon of political fight.

Don't imagine for a second that such weapons are only used by those of the left.

How one feels about it depends on the situation. If it's a fight, then a weapon can be a good thing to have. I personally don't want to fight, but certainly see it as necessary at times. Others have more anger, or more relish of battle, and take their own stance.

And I suppose it is possible that getting hit upside the head by 'PC' may be a step in the consciousness raising of some folks....

The bottom line for me is that if someone says something offends them, then I take that on with good grace, and try not to offend them. Unless I have reason to....

If someone is getting all over me because I inadvertently offended them, well, depends on the situation. Mostly, that sounds like a thing to walk away from.

[finnbow]

It boils down to knowing your audience.

[d-ray657]

Bob, what I'm getting at is that political correctness has always been awkward for me. Those who know me know that I don't appreciate racial or sexist jokes, and will not use them around me. Most people I am close to are unlikely to do so anyway. Some things that I have had to be consciously sensitive to are things that come second nature to those in my sons' generation. What they experience is what I think political correctness should evolve into. Not a necessarily a need to accommodate differences as if they are a liability, but to accept differences just because they are there.

The comments on this thread have been great. Manners are an extremely important aspect of political correctness - all social interaction for that matter.

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

But still, no one has answered the question whether Frank Zappa ever practiced political correctness.

Regards,

D-Ray

[icenine]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

But still, no one has answered the question whether Frank Zappa ever practiced political correctness.

Regards,

D-Ray

After Joe's Garage can you really think you do not know the answer already?

or are you trying to be like Socrates and trying to draw us out into an ongoing debate:


"What is Political Correctness?"

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by icenine

After Joe's Garage can you really think you do not know the answer already?

or are you trying to be like Socrates and trying to draw us out into an ongoing debate:


"What is Political Correctness?"

SSSHHHHHHHHH!!

Regards,

D-Ray

p.s. actually I was thinking about Camarillo Brillo ("And she was breeding a dwarf, but she wasn't done yet.").

[Oerets]

Really?

You have to ask?


Zappa was normal, the rest of the world was out of sync!


He did tone it down some after Apostrophe and Don't Eat the Yellow Snow made him known to a larger audience.



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