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Old 08-18-2017, 05:50 AM
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It is arguable that the provocations of such folks are the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, but I am skeptical.
I feel free speech should be ended when the intended result is in physical harm on to others. As was the intent of the Nazi @ss holes last Saturday in VA.



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Old 08-18-2017, 06:35 AM
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What industries are you willing to see regulated by antitrust laws: The oil companies? The airline companies? The cable companies? Banks? The recording inudstry? The insurance industry? The medical industry, including Big Pharma? Agricultural conglomerates?
We have had the media controlling the direction of conversation since as long as there was a media.

But, IMO controlling the conversation between individual people is intrusive and abusive, more like some communist country or dictatorship.

What is next after Facebook ? The internet ?
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:36 AM
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I feel free speech should be ended when the intended result is in physical harm on to others. As was the intent of the Nazi @ss holes last Saturday in VA.



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Old 08-18-2017, 06:43 AM
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As was the intent of the Nazi @ss holes last Saturday in VA.

As well as those sent in to confront them.
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:49 AM
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Would you be silent and peaceful if hundreds of ISIS, Al-Qaeda armed supporters marched through your hometown? Taunting you with hate speech and the likes?

My guess they would of not fair very well at all.


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Old 08-18-2017, 06:53 AM
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Would you be silent and peaceful if hundreds of ISIS, Al-Qaeda armed supporters marched through your hometown? Taunting you with hate speech and the likes?

My guess they would of not fair very well at all.


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Old 08-18-2017, 07:01 AM
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As well as those sent in to confront them.

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Old 08-18-2017, 07:03 AM
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That is what it amounts to, scorn and ridicule. That is what you get when you have no logical counter to their points, just emotion.
One shouldn't scorn and ridicule Neo-Nazis? Does one really need to offer a logical counter to Nazism?
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Makes my point. Who decides the social conscience ? What about stock holders who disagree ?
They can sell their stock if they object to criticism of Nazism.
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:09 AM
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It is arguable that the provocations of such folks are the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, but I am skeptical.
There were all sorts of criminal prosecutions for incitement back in the '60's when civil rights leaders gave fiery speeches that were followed by riots.
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